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For those who mill their own flour...a few questions
August 15, 2023, 05:37 PM
GustoferFor those who mill their own flour...a few questions
Some years back I was doing it, but my cheapo mill shit the bed and I just never got back into it. I just ordered a new Komo mill and have been looking for bulk berries and holy cow has the price gone up! Nearly three times the price of store bought flour.
Where are you guys getting your berries from that is hopefully a tad more affordable than what I'm seeing?
I'm looking for organic (Roundup free) nonGMO hard white ideally, and I understand that that will be more expensive, but $50-$60 for 25 pounds of berries seems a bit excessive. Is this pretty much the going rate nowadays?
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August 15, 2023, 06:28 PM
ulstermanCheck out the LDS Bishops Storehouse if there is one near you.
August 15, 2023, 10:13 PM
sjtillI get my regular wheat berries (hard red winter wheat) from Palouse (palousebrand.com) in Washington. It is not organic, but they cite the following on their website:
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In order to ensure the highest quality Palouse Brand products are tested for multiple certifications including Kosher status, Non-GMO Project Verified and Certified Sustainable by the Food Alliance. Our products are also Desiccant-Free and Non-Irradiated.
4 25 pound bags of wheat berries is now listed as $210. When I first started ordering before the pandemic, 25 pound bags were $37.50 I believe. Lately they've been about $55, with free shipping.
We also have canned wheat berries from the online LDS store which we are keeping as a reserve.
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August 15, 2023, 10:17 PM
BeancookerThe place I manage, Mount Hope Wholesale, has them for $165/50lb. Organic, one of the few organic items we carry. Discount code: SIG10 will get you 10% off, and any order over $60 gets free shipping.
https://www.mounthopewholesale...eat-berries-organic/
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August 15, 2023, 10:22 PM
GustoferYeah, I was looking at both Palouse and Wheat Montana. The LDS stuff looks a bit cheaper at $45.90 for 33#.
$37.50 is about what I remember paying...or less. Sheesh! Ain't inflation great?
Looking forward to getting back into it though.
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August 15, 2023, 10:26 PM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
$165/50lb.
Ouch! You'd think organic would be cheaper with all the money they save not having to buy Roundup.

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August 16, 2023, 06:58 AM
snwghstI purchased flour from Barton Spring a couple months ago. They have whole berries, don't know it its competitively priced or not
https://bartonspringsmill.com/.../whole-wheat-berries
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August 16, 2023, 08:51 AM
GustoferThank you sir. Looks like they have great prices ($70/47#), but their shipping is $69.35.

Not going to do that.
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August 27, 2023, 08:55 AM
mark123quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
… 25 pound bags of wheat berries …
May I ask how many pounds of flour does 25 lbs of wheat berries make? Is it 1:1?
Also, what’s the shelf life of the unground berries? Can I freeze them?
August 27, 2023, 09:03 AM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by mark123:
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Originally posted by sjtill:
… 25 pound bags of wheat berries …
May I ask how many pounds of flour does 25 lbs of wheat berries make?
Also, what’s the shelf life of the unground berries? Can I freeze them?
25# of berries will make 25# of flour (less if you sift out the hulls/bran).
Shelf life is years/decades in the right conditions (air tight and safe from moisture).
I don't believe that freezing is recommended nowadays.
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August 27, 2023, 09:07 AM
mark123quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by mark123:
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Originally posted by sjtill:
… 25 pound bags of wheat berries …
May I ask how many pounds of flour does 25 lbs of wheat berries make?
Also, what’s the shelf life of the unground berries? Can I freeze them?
25# of berries will make 25# of flour (less if you sift out the hulls/bran).
Shelf life is years/decades in the right conditions (air tight and safe from moisture).
I don't believe that freezing is recommended nowadays.
Thank you. I am going to check into this. The wife makes bread a couple of times a week and we’re looking for healthier alternatives.
August 27, 2023, 11:09 AM
StorminNorminquote:
Originally posted by mark123:
Also, what’s the shelf life of the unground berries? Can I freeze them?
Seal them in #10 cans with an oxygen absorbent and they will last 30 years.
NRA Benefactor Life Member August 27, 2023, 04:42 PM
JWFquote:
Originally posted by mark123:
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Originally posted by sjtill:
… 25 pound bags of wheat berries …
May I ask how many pounds of flour does 25 lbs of wheat berries make? Is it 1:1?
Also, what’s the shelf life of the unground berries? Can I freeze them?
I do not mill bulk flour, only as needed. One cup of wheat berries will give me 1 1/2 cups of flour (+/-).
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August 27, 2023, 06:20 PM
sjtillFor long-term storage it’s easier to buy #10 cans of wheat berries from the LSD store. They are packed with O2 absorber and will last 30 years.
For regular use I get 25 pound bags and put them in a food-grade 3.5 gallon bucket. You can also put the berries in mylar bags with oxygen absorber, seal them and put the bags in a plastic bucket. But then you have to worry about the moisture content. Ideally < 10%. I measured moisture at 12%; so may not last as long.
I must say that grinding our own flour results in a better tasting loaf, coarser the way I grind it. And then the GI effect—-better than any alternative for “regularity”.

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August 27, 2023, 06:38 PM
mark123Thanks for all the info. We’re really interested in this. Maybe you guys could suggest a slightly less expensive mill.
August 27, 2023, 06:48 PM
sjtill LinkThis is what we have used for many years. We did have one give up the ghost out of warranty.
It’s very noisy, sounds like a jet engine. But fast. Adjustable size from coarse to fine.
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August 27, 2023, 06:57 PM
mark123Thanks
August 27, 2023, 07:15 PM
JWFI have been using a Whisper Mill for 30 years. They were bought out by Wonder Mill but it seems to be the same product and comes with a lifetime warranty.
https://www.breadbeckers.com/s...hipping-318p1825.htmCheck out their web site for supplies, I have purchased from them for years, good people. I have no business affiliation with them, only a customer.
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August 27, 2023, 08:06 PM
sjtill LinkHere’s a comparison of the Blendtec, Wondermill, and Nutramill.
Blendtec is noisier but faster, takes up less space.
That’s very important for us.
I just wear my SensGard hearing protectors.

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August 29, 2023, 05:59 PM
onegeekKitchenAid grain mill attachment, vs Mockmill (German-made) KitchenAid attachment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEfI60q73YwGood idea from the comments:
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Put the grain through twice....once in course and once in fine , take your time....speed makes it hot.