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January 31, 2018, 08:07 AM
V-Tail
Package Thief Breaks Leg Running Back to Car *video*
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
flogging is the only way to go. Well the Mohammedans have a neat trick where they lop off a hand. And while that certainly has merits, I think public flogging would be sufficient and more humane.
As far as I know, caning works pretty well in Singapore. They still do that, don't they?



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January 31, 2018, 08:39 AM
Edmond
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
flogging is the only way to go. Well the Mohammedans have a neat trick where they lop off a hand. And while that certainly has merits, I think public flogging would be sufficient and more humane.
As far as I know, caning works pretty well in Singapore. They still do that, don't they?


Did it work for this guy? Big Grin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay


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January 31, 2018, 12:15 PM
senza nome
quote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
flogging is the only way to go. Well the Mohammedans have a neat trick where they lop off a hand. And while that certainly has merits, I think public flogging would be sufficient and more humane.
As far as I know, caning works pretty well in Singapore. They still do that, don't they?


Did it work for this guy? Big Grin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay


It did for Singapore --- he's offending somewhere else no?
January 31, 2018, 12:36 PM
jimmy123x
Talk about an instant karma! Next, she'll be sueing the property owner for having a wet lawn when trying to steal his packages and win.....I wouldn't doubt it, if it's in Seattle or CA.
January 31, 2018, 01:20 PM
Angus the Kid
The use of the word "jogged" is generous.



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January 31, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jelly
quote:
Ababneh said one of the stolen packages was an expensive box of medicine.
Hope it was a prescriptions that would add felony charges. HA HA HA
July 20, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sgt Neutron
UPDATE:
In addition to screwing up her ankle, she gets 58 days in jail:

http://komonews.com/news/local...rly-2-months-in-jail

SEATTLE -- An infamous "porch pirate" who was caught on surveillance camera stealing packages from a Bothell home, only to wipe out and injure her ankle on the getaway, was sentenced to 58 days in jail Friday.

Alicia Treat had pleaded guilty to the thefts in January with alleged accomplice Brian Devere. The maximum prison sentence was 60 days.

Treat's mishap went viral when the homeowner's surveillance video was posted on Facebook, garnering more than 650,000 views in what many viewers deemed as karmic justice.

The two were later arrested at an Everett motel.

Treat, 37, is homeless, on disability, and has three kids. Devere, 39, has a lengthy criminal history that includes convictions for identity theft, burglary, and auto theft.

The judge also ordered Treat to pay restitution.

July 20, 2018, 11:33 PM
2PAK
She’ll steal someone’s package again to pay the restitution and then claim to be the real victim. If she’d just move to Seattle it would all be free.
July 21, 2018, 10:40 AM
dsiets
quote:
Treat, 37, is homeless, on disability, and has three kids. Devere, 39, has a lengthy criminal history that includes convictions for identity theft, burglary, and auto theft.

Whats her disability? Up until her slip, it looked like she was able to run and pick up boxes and run them back to a vehicle. A prime candidate for package delivery/pickup.
July 21, 2018, 11:20 AM
cas
Probably that she's too dumb and or lazy to hold down a job. Sadly I know a couple people collecting disability for that malady.


Nice looking car, staying in a motel.. they have some well-to-do homeless people.


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July 21, 2018, 11:30 AM
ChicagoSigMan
Max sentence of 60 days for this? That's why there is so much of it. Make it a felony with a year or more, preferably 5 years, and you will cut down a=on a lot of this crap.
July 21, 2018, 11:38 AM
RogueJSK
It varies from state to state, but classification of simple theft charges is typically driven by the dollar amount of the property stolen.

In Arkansas, thefts under $1,000 are misdemeanors. That means no prison time.

The package she stole was likely worth well under a grand.

Frankly, I'm surprised she got any jail time at all. If it hadn't been accompanied by a viral video, she probably would have just been given misdemeanor probation (which is a joke), some fines/court costs, and some restitution (that she'll never pay).
July 21, 2018, 11:43 AM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
It varies from state to state, but classification of simple theft charges is typically driven by the dollar amount of the property stolen.

In Arkansas, thefts under $1,000 are misdemeanors. That means no prison time.

The package she stole was likely worth well under a grand.

Frankly, I'm surprised she got any jail time at all. If it hadn't been accompanied by a viral video, she probably would have just been given misdemeanor probation (which is a joke), some fines/court costs, and some restitution (that she'll never pay).


It just so happens that the package contained special medication that the homeowner needed that cost around $5,000.

https://www.wzzm13.com/article...-court/281-512145265



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July 21, 2018, 01:54 PM
Sgt Neutron
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
It varies from state to state, but classification of simple theft charges is typically driven by the dollar amount of the property stolen.

In Arkansas, thefts under $1,000 are misdemeanors. That means no prison time.

The package she stole was likely worth well under a grand.

Frankly, I'm surprised she got any jail time at all. If it hadn't been accompanied by a viral video, she probably would have just been given misdemeanor probation (which is a joke), some fines/court costs, and some restitution (that she'll never pay).


It just so happens that the package contained special medication that the homeowner needed that cost around $5,000.

https://www.wzzm13.com/article...-court/281-512145265


If I were getting a package that set me back $5,000, I would either make sure I'm home and ready when UPS/FedEx, etc. showed up at my house, or arrange for me to pick it up at the local office. Especially in the Seattle area with all the tweakers and what not.
July 21, 2018, 02:18 PM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt Neutron:
If I were getting a package that set me back $5,000, I would either make sure I'm home and ready when UPS/FedEx, etc. showed up at my house, or arrange for me to pick it up at the local office. Especially in the Seattle area with all the tweakers and what not.

That is probably the list price. The insurance company would pay less than half that and the patient would have a small copay. Probably.




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July 21, 2018, 02:25 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt Neutron:
If I were getting a package that set me back $5,000, I would either make sure I'm home and ready when UPS/FedEx, etc. showed up at my house, or arrange for me to pick it up at the local office. Especially in the Seattle area with all the tweakers and what not.

That is probably the list price. The insurance company would pay less than half that and the patient would have a small copay. Probably.


Well it's valued at $5,000 and he stated that insurance covers a portion, but not replacements. So he's footing the bill for full retail cost. In my mind it's valued at $5,000, this should be a felony.



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July 21, 2018, 02:27 PM
mbinky
I would assume the value is what counts, not the price paid. If someone stole my $20K car it doesn't matter that I paid $5K for it. It was still valued at $20K.
July 21, 2018, 02:40 PM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt Neutron:
If I were getting a package that set me back $5,000, I would either make sure I'm home and ready when UPS/FedEx, etc. showed up at my house, or arrange for me to pick it up at the local office. Especially in the Seattle area with all the tweakers and what not.

That is probably the list price. The insurance company would pay less than half that and the patient would have a small copay. Probably.


Well it's valued at $5,000 and he stated that insurance covers a portion, but not replacements. So he's footing the bill for full retail cost. In my mind it's valued at $5,000, this should be a felony.

Oh, I don't disagree. But I suspect the patient was less cautious about receipt due to the low copay and not realizing that insurance would not cover replacement.




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July 21, 2018, 02:48 PM
Graniteguy
Wow - up to 60 days. She will do 2 weeks and go back to exactly what she does best. No impact.
July 21, 2018, 10:12 PM
mikeyspizza
quote:
Treat, 37, is homeless, on disability, and has three kids.
They let her keep the kids?