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A couple years ago I topped off the truck because we had a storm coming. When I finished filling up and started the truck every warning light it had came on, but it was running fine so I drove it home. Once the engine cooled off it wouldn't start so I had it towed to the dealer and they found water in the tank. The station found out one of their refueling guys didn't put the caps back on their tanks correctly and the snow and parking lot swarf wound up in their tank. Their insurance covered the bill at the dealership along with several other vehicles that wound up alongside mine. They emptied my tank and flushed the fuel rail/injectors. | |||
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Yes I have. Coming back from San Jose, I gassed up at truck stop along I5 in the flat a little before the climb at Mt Shasta. The pickup ran ok in the flat. But the climb made it overheat, and run so bad I had to shift to second. The engine was a built 400 ford with strong C6. 400 engines are crummy, but the build made it much improved. I made it somehow to Weed and got gas. It ran better. Then back in Oregon, I topped off again with Union 76. Then it ran like a champ. SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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When you were last filling your vehicle was there a fuel truck delivering fuel? I avoid getting fuel while they're refilling the underground tanks because it stirs up both water and sediment. It's a temporary problem that even well run gas stations won't find in their sampling and testing for water. There is an old saying - dilution is the solution to pollution. Gustofer's advice is what I'd do since it's running. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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^^ What about the Fuel Filters? Serious question... To my knowledge all Fuel Pumps (Gas and Diesel) have filters. Do they not filter adequately? I'd think any sediment in the underground tanks/fuel would be large enough to be caught in the filter(s), no? Water is a different issue entirely though. I'm been leaning towards this 'don't fill when the fuel delivery truck is there' is a leftover from days long past and basically a non-issue in the modern era, but I've NEVER had a 'bad gas' issue either. I also only fuel up at 'top tier stations' so there's that. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Or, just invest the 5 minutes and $6.99 suggested earlier get some gas-dry, plus the new better gas on top. There's no way I'd just keep driving around on what I think is potentially watered gas. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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I used to get gas from a no name gas station near Mission and Army, Now Cesar Chavez in San Francisco. My car would sputter. But it was cheap gas and I was poor "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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About 10 years ago when we were looking for a house in Vegas, I filled up our Hummer H2 at a gas station before driving back to Cali. We made it past NV/CA state-line when the H2 started losing power. I had it towed all the way to Pasadena (about 250 miles). Had to switch to a different flat bed truck in Barstow, CA. What a nightmare. Dealership had to drain a full tank of gas and replace the fuel filter. They said it was bad gas. _______________________ P228 - West German | |||
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^^^ This I was told many years ago by a guy that ran the R&D lab where 4MUL8R probably works that it is best not to fill up when you see a tanker putting fuel into the stations tank as that process stirs up any contaminants in the bottom of the tank. ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
IMO, you're leaning in the wrong direction. I work for an integrated oil & gas company (explore, produce, refine, and market) and our gasoline additives are top tier certified. Employees receive a modest employee discount on gasoline, and the employee discount applies to spouses and children living at home. I don't know a single coworker who fills their vehicle at one of our top-tier gas station franchises when the fuel tanker is delivering fuel to the below ground tanks. However, coworker's children and spouses are hit and miss on following that and several have had fuel problems after filling up while the tanker was there. For example, my mentor gave wife and duaghters gas station credit card for the discount which he pays the bill for all 4 cards, and since his daughter works she paid her regular credit card bill. She filled up at the gas station with our employer's logo out front even though the tanker was there because she wanted Dad to pay for gas instead of going down the street and paying for her own gas.  She got bad gas, the car had to be towed to the dealership, and she fessed up when she asked her Dad to help with the repair bill. Possible reasons: Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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I'd simultaneously do both in this order: The reason I say premium is that it's protected throughout the transportation cycle from the refinery to the distribution terminal. ASTM allows a certain amount of diesel in gasoline. On a pipeline batch change (e.g. diesel to gasoline or gasoline to diesel) they have four choices: Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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My opinion, get a bottle of HEET and some good fuel injection cleaner, fill up with some good gas, then go on a long highway drive for about an hour or 2. Hopefully that helps. Keep us updated. God Bless !!!  "Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference." | |||
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Quick update, I decided to top off at half tank (at a different station obviously). After another 80 miles, the engine started running much smoother, and the Check Engine Light, which had since come on, went off again. Hopefully this is the end of it. Thanks for all the suggestions. | |||
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In the 1973-1979 while in Alaska during the severe Arctic winter months I would buy "Heet" by the case and with almost every tank add a can.... If you went 2 or 3 tanks without adding the "Heet" you were asking for trouble....Whether you bought gas on military post or from civilian gas stations.... Once coming back from Fairbanks back to Delta Junction (100 miles) about halfway my fuel line started to freeze up to the point of only 15 mph max availabe...When getting into Delta Junction I dumped 3 cans of "Heet" and topped off gas tank. (Motor Chevy 350 V8) Within 15 miles everything smoothed out for the better... Never again forgot to add the can of "Heet" with every fill up especially during the Arctic winter weather conditions. ..................... drill sgt. | |||
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except,, everyone's gas comes thru the same pipeline, the difference?? if brand Z or brand B uses a proprietary blend, it is done at the tank farm when the tanker truck is loaded, then delivered to the gas station, so BP, or EXXOn or Shell will have whatever they use for additives squirted in the tank when loaded, then dropped in the tanks at the retail locations, there is limited transport via truck gas is pumped via pipeline to distro hubs, and trucked from there https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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I can only say for Kroger, and it has been 10+ yrs since I worked for them, but filters (for sediment etc) were replaced yearly, I think, water was not an issue , see my post about Veeder Root and the paste used on the sticks used to verify https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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The worst case I had was in 1986. I gassed up at my local station as usual and headed for work. My 1975 F150 started running rough and when I revived it up, black smoke came from the exhaust. I bought dry gas from a store and after adding it drove a bit and that helped. My 302 did not get the best gas mileage normally but it sucked the rest of that tank of fuel. The gas station closed until they cleaned up their act and fuel. Lock N Load Michael USMC Ret | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
I don't know Kroger's practices. Were y'all using absolute filters (i.e. the filter's micron rating in 3-dimensions) or the less expensive 2-dimension micron rating filter? Did y'all have a differential pressure gauge or alarm across the filter to determine if it was clogged before the yearly changeout? I suspect we have an apples and oranges comparison going on here on the water. The question is about truck stirring up the tank and causing problems. Am I correct that the water sample was pulled at the time of day/week/month the accountants specified rather than immediately after the truck offloaded (i.e. stirred up the tank)? Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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An old timer I knew way back when said this is why he fills it when it's down to half a tank.. You won't get more than half a tank of bad. It stuck with me. "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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OK, this is really turning into a dramatic series... The CEL eventually came on after the fillup of "bad" gas, but strangely went off again just as the fuel gauge read at the exact halfway point. Then I refill at half-tank, from a different station. The CEL comes on again (even though it's now diluted), and once again self-extinguishes when it reaches exactly half-tank. (The engine is still running a little rough, though driveable.) Anyone have any idea why this would be happening? Why would the CEL consistenly go off by itself at the half-tank mark? | |||
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