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Unannounced FBI raid on President Trump’s Mar-A-Lago Home

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August 12, 2022, 09:23 AM
chellim1
Unannounced FBI raid on President Trump’s Mar-A-Lago Home
^^^ And if they are lying about what they were looking for... they should be fired.
Either way, the FBI should be cleaned out.



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August 12, 2022, 09:42 AM
dking271
This has now become more laughable than before. If there was top secret nuclear docs that created a grave national security issue, why did they wait until Monday to raid Mar A Lago when the warrant was issued on Friday. When the government gets so big that they don't believe they have to explain their actions you get exactly what we are seeing. It’s comforting how incompetent these people are in their ability to screw up a set up. This may end up unraveling the regime and reeks of desperation. I was ready for someone like DeSantis, now I want to see Trump completely crush the regime bureaucracy and restore this country back to its foundation. I predict Donald Trump will match the record of Grover Cleveland and become the second president to serve two non-consecutive terms!


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August 12, 2022, 10:02 AM
trapper189
I see, someone from Trump’s team accidentally packed up the manual for the Whitehouse microwave and two scopes can’t find the cornpop button.

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August 12, 2022, 10:18 AM
oddball
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Originally posted by dking271:
If there was top secret nuclear docs that created a grave national security issue, why did they wait until Monday to raid Mar A Lago when the warrant was issued on Friday.


Because everyone knows in government to make a press release on Friday, the public are likely to bypass it. Make it on a Monday, the media has all week to beat it senseless on 24 hour news.



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August 12, 2022, 10:20 AM
Flashlightboy
I'm just not buying the entire nuclear documents and the massive search warrant team narrative. Gullible people will.

Search warrants require an ops plan however the plan is as detailed as necessary - number people might encounter, armed or dangerous and exigency, roles everyone will have and so on.

The Secret Service was not going to put up resistance and a half dozen Fibbies with raid jackets could have driven up and quietly proceeded.

As far as exigency, it's BS because if national secrets were truly at risk the ops plan and the execution team would already be in place and the warrant would been the green light. You can't argue exigency with a 72 hour delay, especially where you are looking for documents within a known structure that apparently were at no risk for removal or destruction.

The WH and DOJ look like fools.
August 12, 2022, 10:23 AM
recoatlift
Their continual lying & buffoonery has become too much for anyone to believe. Our Country has never been through such embarrassment.

As Always, F jb!
August 12, 2022, 10:27 AM
SIGnified
quote:
Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
I'm just not buying the entire nuclear documents and the massive search warrant team narrative. Gullible people will.

Search warrants require an ops plan however the plan is as detailed as necessary - number people might encounter, armed or dangerous and exigency, roles everyone will have and so on.

The Secret Service was not going to put up resistance and a half dozen Fibbies with raid jackets could have driven up and quietly proceeded.

As far as exigency, it's BS because if national secrets were truly at risk the ops plan and the execution team would already be in place and the warrant would been the green light. You can't argue exigency with a 72 hour delay, especially where you are looking for documents within a known structure that apparently were at no risk for removal or destruction.

The WH and DOJ look like fools.


That’s how I see it. Well said.





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August 12, 2022, 10:44 AM
wcb6092
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August 12, 2022, 11:37 AM
Rey HRH
I don't know or remember if someone already said it: What a great kick off for Trump's 2024 campaign.

And I bet on his second term, he's going to require a full body cavity search of any bureaucrat who wants to stay or be hired as he should.



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August 12, 2022, 11:41 AM
parabellum
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means. Roll Eyes
August 12, 2022, 11:45 AM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means. Roll Eyes


Unfortunately, highly probable that 10 to 20 million Americans probably do.....
August 12, 2022, 12:00 PM
Brianp90
Very good info in those videos wcb6092. Thank you.


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August 12, 2022, 12:02 PM
SIGnified
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means. Roll Eyes


They’re actually tying it to nuke weapons.

Those documents wouldn’t even be kept in the oval office. Much less moved from the oval office to his home.

I have multiple family that worked in that business.

If it was truly a national emergency they would’ve moved as soon as the warrant was issued.

100 days before an election says it all; along with the nonprosecution with a litany of Dimmerwits like Clinton, Burger, Clinton, Obama, Holder, Comey, Clapper, Garland, Biden, Wray, Biden and 51 IC agents.

Yet who has been SWATTED?

Flynn, Stone, Giuliani, Navarro, Bannon, and Trump.


This is all bullshit.





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August 12, 2022, 12:07 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means. Roll Eyes



Hell NO ... all they have to do is mention those terms and the sheeple will do their math.
Complete manipulation. Eek
August 12, 2022, 12:08 PM
PASig
The sheer desperation by the Left to stop Donald Trump from running again is simply astonishing to me. Now you have creeps like this Hayden clown inferring that the fate that befell Ethel and Julius Rosenberg also apply to Trump. Eek


August 12, 2022, 12:20 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
The sheer desperation by the Left to stop Donald Trump from running again is simply astonishing to me.
It's not just Trump in 2024 that has them panicking, it's also the fall midterms. The Dems are in trouble. They're pulling out every stop they can to try to avert disaster--for them. Many of the GOP primary winners were endorsed by Trump. They probably figure if they can succeed in destroying Trump, they can use that against those nominees.



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August 12, 2022, 12:27 PM
sigmonkey
Desperados. Literally.




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August 12, 2022, 12:29 PM
BigSwede
quote:
The Dems are in trouble.


The trouble they are in looked deliberate

Why? Is the question, to me



August 12, 2022, 12:41 PM
Ironbutt
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means. Roll Eyes


Well, he did say he was going to clean out the swamp, and I think we've seen that nuking DC is probably the only way.


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August 12, 2022, 01:10 PM
Ironbutt
From Donald's statement earlier, it looks like he's calling their bluff. Not only does he approve of making the docs public, he wants it done immediately.

"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents," the former president wrote, "even though they have been drawn up by radical left Democrats and possible future political opponents, who have a strong and powerful vested interest in attacking me, much as they have done for the last 6 years."

So.....What's the holdup?

In the last sentence of the statement, I'm not sure if Donald was referring to the search warrant paperwork, or to the documents that they removed from his house. But it appears like releasing those so called "classified documents" may make some of Donald's enemies look bad. Which is probably they raided his home to begin with.

The reason those documents were "classified" to begin with, probably had alot more to do with the security of the swamp critters than about the security of America.

I'm sure that when they are released, they'll probably be so redacted that no one would ever be able to decipher them.


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