I can't say the I agree with all the advice given if it comes with loosing your own self respect and sanity.

I have a daughter that is pretty woke and I will not trade my self respect or sanity to bow down to her.
Her siblings & cousins did not go that route so she is a one off in this family.
She is an adult and can choose her own way but I will not let her decisions control me.

Our daughter went through this when she was 13-14. Just post covid - schools were back in person and a whole PILE of kids were all doing this same bullshit in our ridiculously liberal small town. The school fucking loved it - they called her by a different name, had gender affirming shit - threatened parents with CPS if you didn't go along with it.

My wife and I just kept on keeping on - I refused to participate, but I wasn't angry about it. Her 'friends' (all these other kids doing this same crap) were some of the most selfish awful people on the fucking planet. Our daughter ended up having two suicide attempts (both followed by a week in inpatient treatment at Mayo Rochester where they did nothing other than 'teach' their students) followed by a month long inpatient residency program, followed by a day program for the remainder of the school year. She was still suicidal and still insistent that she was a boy. We took her phone away for months at a time. Nothing helped her be in a better place - including anti depressants.

Fast forward to the end of year - one filled with very hard work on all of our part, combined with some therapy and a pile of neurofeedback and I'm cautiously optimistic that it's over.

Neurofeedback was a life saver. She is a happier and more resilient kid now than she's been in years. Our current treatment team believes that a severe concussion (fell in hockey in 2018) likely was the start of it and the isolation during those formative years due to society shutting down during covid tipped her and all of these other kids over the edge.

Interestingly enough most of those former peers have also backed off of the 'trans' bullshit. This year we also switched schools and the new school is so much better. They actually have some structure and the kids don't run the school.

This has been an interesting thread. I have two children, 18 and almost 17. My 18 year old daughter came out to us last year. We nervously asked her if she was having any gender confusion and she brightly said: “Oh no, I like being a girl”. Whew.

Darthfuster shows a lot of wisdom here. I too have a lot of skepticism about this “trend”, and this really is nothing new. Kids have been looking for ways to confound their parents for generations. I believe gender dysphoria is real. I do not believe all these kids suffer from it. As a parent of a newly emancipated child, all you can do is hold your fire and see what happens. All the influence you were ever going to have you largely have had already. This is about defining your relationship with them as an adult. I’ll even go so far to say that’s the point of the exercise—-to see what ultra conservative Dad or Mom does with a choice they know he will hate. The point is to respect the choice.

Get over this hump, and I think you might be surprised at how everything shakes out. Damn these things are hard.

That is some scary stuff for sure. Trans has been around for a long time and it’s almost exclusively been a biological male thinking they are a girl. Many ended up being gay.

A female transitioning to male is a new phenomenon and I won’t even get into the issues that seem to be creating this. Apparently when a girl decides to transition there is almost a guarantee that many more from the same school will suddenly decide they are male as well.


I was watching a podcast and on of the guests was a trans woman and she made one point that really stuck with me.


“Trans people get surgery thinking it’s going to “fix” their issue. Their issue is not generally resolved with their surgery because being born in the wrong body isn’t really the issue it’s the result of earlier trama which is still there after surgery”.