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Updated the title to be more accurate. Can I have a handgun of mine shipped to me by someone else? When I arrive in Dallas will I need to wait 3 days again? I am a Florida resident. Been overseas 6 years so my concealed carry license and ID are expired. Expired ID is still valid based of being stationed OCONUS but I'm not sure that will work for accepting a firearm. What options do I have? Would rather not be without a firearm for a 6K miles road tripThis message has been edited. Last edited by: OttoSig, 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | ||
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Legally you can ship a handgun to yourself in care of so and so, but the receiver must not open the package. Can’t use the post office. Use fedex,ups (hubs only-not the stores) or dhl…. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Okay, so I just need a person in Dallas willing to accept delivery for me? I can handle the Fed-ex overnight. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
Yup, guys do it all the time when they go hunting in the west…ship the gun to themselves care of the lodge… "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Don't Panic |
If I were doing it, I'd have it held for pickup at their facility. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
The only way you can send a handgun via FedEx is to send it to a federal firearms licensee. Their tariffs clearly states that they only accept shipments to licensees. ETA: It now states:
https://www.fedex.com/content/...roundTariff_2018.pdf The FEDEX Guide on shipping firearms states:
UPS' tariff says they will accept a handgun shipped to a licensee, don't overtly State you can have a handgun shipped to yourself.
https://www.ups.com/assets/res...terms_service_us.pdf The US mail is out of the question because non-licenses can't be in the mail. Doing so is a felony under 18 USC 1715 . Is there a reason you cannot take the gun with you on your outbound trip? If you were flying you're going to need to produce a valid form of government issued photo ID to get past the tub stacking assholes not to mention getting the airline to accept a package containing a firearm as checked luggage. And of course you can't carry your handgun on board with you because you are not the law enforcement officer doing so in the course of his duties. Rifles and shotguns are a completely different matter. Those can be shipped via the US mail and be shipped to yourself and care of another party such as a hunting lodge. The UPS and FedEx tariffs still apply to rifles and shotguns but I think that you would run into the less opposition because it is a far more familiar thing for people to do albeit they have valid identification. Edited to add links to the FEDEX and UPS tariffs, plus a link to 18 USC 1715. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I fly on PCS orders and only need my CAC card. I fly into Dallas from Korea. So a trip to Pensacola is out of the question just to grab a gun. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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| Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Are you .mil? Because even if you have orders and a CAC, and thereby fall under slightly different rules regarding residence in a state, your orders only expand that to the state you formally declare as your residence for .mil purposes, plus the state you are assigned to via your orders. Even then, you need to provide a separate .gov-issued ID that is still valid (your CAC doesn't count for this), so buying a handgun in Texas (if that is where your orders list as your permanent duty station) is out of the question. If you'd care to discuss this further offline, we can do so via email. My eddress is in my profile. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I fly using my CAC card. I do not intend to show it to an FFL nor will i be flying with a firearm. I'm just trying to figure out how to have my handgun "meet" me at my destination. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
I found the answer to this question: What laws would be violated if one were to ignore these tariffs? According to 18 U.S. Code §922 (e): It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; ... you have to provide the carrier written notification you are shipping a firearm.This message has been edited. Last edited by: trapper189, | |||
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Well that's where the first sentence of my post comes into play  "Can I have a handgun of mine shipped to me by someone else?" 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Damn I’m slow some days  , but I’m not the only one who missed that. Hell no you can’t do that. | |||
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Silliness I tell ya!. I figured as much...if I was to make it to Pensacola to ship it I would just take it with me. I might see about flying with it if I fly into Pensacola, but looks more like I'm SOL. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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| Smarter than the average bear |
OttoSig, since you do not have a valid CHP, I'm assuming you wouldn't carry, but want something to have in the vehicle with you and in hotels at night. My suggestion is to buy an inexpensive shotgun when you arrive in Dallas, and if you don't want to keep it, sell it at the end of your trip. This would probably even be less expensive than shipping something to yourself. For example, this Mossberg Maverick 88 Cruiser, with pistol grip, can be had at Academy for $200: https://www.academy.com/shop/p...shotgun?sku=12-gauge It's not a handgun, but at 30" it wouldn't be bad, and I'm sure you could easily get $150 for it after your trip. You can buy a shotgun outside of your home state, so the only issue I see is your identification. I'm not sure a dealer would accept your expired drivers license. You need something with photo that shows name, address, and date of birth. A military id would do, as would a passport, although you might need a second id to show your address. Have your friend mail you a voter registration card if you don't have one with you. Here's a link to ATF FAQ about identification. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/q...n-transferee-firearm Lastly, I don't why or how you're starting in Dallas, but if you have any friends there (or along your route), they can legally loan you a gun, which you could later return (probably have to ship to FFL). Good luck! | |||
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| Stupid Allergy  |
I’m an FFL/SOT in North Richland Hills, like 30 minutes from Dallas, if I can help. I wont charge you any fees. Feel free to PM me if needed. "Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway." Steve McQueen... | |||
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| Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
There is the answer for the Texas end, I think, if you can get someone to ship it. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I thought a family member was holding your firearms in Florida. A Florida CCW is good for 7 years. Renewal can be done by mail. Florida CCW has reciprocity with Texas. Is there any paperwork on the custody of your guns while overseas? | |||
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| Laugh or Die |
Why can't someone else ship it? It's his gun already on both ends...? What difference does the actual person putting it in the mailbox make? Is there an actual law against that? If that's the case, why can people ship my guns straight back to me when I send them to them for work? ________________________________________________ | |||
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I'm Fine |
I have nothing constructive to say. But this thread tells me how incredibly FUCKED UP our country is. When a person who already owns something can't figure out a way to freaking send it to themselves without violating 15 laws. Some sad shit. ------------------ SBrooks | |||
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They are, my Florida CCW expired in 2018 if I recall correctly, Florida drivers License expired 12 months ago. I'm a little screwed any way I slice it it seems. Been gone too long, gonna take a while in Florida getting everything sorted out. I'll try to make as many appointments as I can during the 4-5 days I'm there this fall. Otherwise it'll take a special trip some time next year. 10 years to retirement! Just waiting! | |||
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