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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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Of course. Maybe he watched the Jetsons too much as a kid. The Navy has enough problems with collisions as it is.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Note that these happened under largely manual control. Maybe a computer, tied into the current ship's sensors, and maybe a few new ones, could have spotted and reacted to the large commercial ships that the human sailors missed and collided with. Also, the Navy is looking to introduce large numbers of unmanned and/or optionally manned ships in the not too distant future.

This goes to a major point in favor of automated trucks. They don't have the failings that humans do. The don't get tired, the don't get bored and distracted, the don't use alcohol or drugs, etc.. How many truck drivers are killed, and how many other people are killed by trucks per year, that are under human control. I would be illogical to expect that automated trucks will not get into accidents or kill people. It is quite possible, and maybe even likely, that they'll kill less people than human driven trucks.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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Of course. Maybe he watched the Jetsons too much as a kid. The Navy has enough problems with collisions as it is.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Note that these happened under largely manual control. Maybe a computer, tied into the current ship's sensors, and maybe a few new ones, could have spotted and reacted to the large commercial ships that the human sailors missed and collided with. Also, the Navy is looking to introduce large numbers of unmanned and/or optionally manned ships in the not too distant future.

This goes to a major point in favor of automated trucks. They don't have the failings that humans do. The don't get tired, the don't get bored and distracted, the don't use alcohol or drugs, etc.. How many truck drivers are killed, and how many other people are killed by trucks per year, that are under human control. I would be illogical to expect that automated trucks will not get into accidents or kill people. It is quite possible, and maybe even likely, that they'll kill less people than human driven trucks.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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Of course. Maybe he watched the Jetsons too much as a kid. The Navy has enough problems with collisions as it is.

Being that three out of four accidents involving big trucks are caused by the passenger vehicles around them, I don’t see how being autonomous will help, unless all vehicles are autonomous.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Better sensors, faster reaction times, constant concentration. And that one out of four is probably thousands a year.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Note that these happened under largely manual control. Maybe a computer, tied into the current ship's sensors, and maybe a few new ones, could have spotted and reacted to the large commercial ships that the human sailors missed and collided with. Also, the Navy is looking to introduce large numbers of unmanned and/or optionally manned ships in the not too distant future.

This goes to a major point in favor of automated trucks. They don't have the failings that humans do. The don't get tired, the don't get bored and distracted, the don't use alcohol or drugs, etc.. How many truck drivers are killed, and how many other people are killed by trucks per year, that are under human control. I would be illogical to expect that automated trucks will not get into accidents or kill people. It is quite possible, and maybe even likely, that they'll kill less people than human driven trucks.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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Of course. Maybe he watched the Jetsons too much as a kid. The Navy has enough problems with collisions as it is.

Being that three out of four accidents involving big trucks are caused by the passenger vehicles around them, I don’t see how being autonomous will help, unless all vehicles are autonomous.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Better sensors, faster reaction times, constant concentration. And that one out of four is probably thousands a year.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Note that these happened under largely manual control. Maybe a computer, tied into the current ship's sensors, and maybe a few new ones, could have spotted and reacted to the large commercial ships that the human sailors missed and collided with. Also, the Navy is looking to introduce large numbers of unmanned and/or optionally manned ships in the not too distant future.

This goes to a major point in favor of automated trucks. They don't have the failings that humans do. The don't get tired, the don't get bored and distracted, the don't use alcohol or drugs, etc.. How many truck drivers are killed, and how many other people are killed by trucks per year, that are under human control. I would be illogical to expect that automated trucks will not get into accidents or kill people. It is quite possible, and maybe even likely, that they'll kill less people than human driven trucks.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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Of course. Maybe he watched the Jetsons too much as a kid. The Navy has enough problems with collisions as it is.

Being that three out of four accidents involving big trucks are caused by the passenger vehicles around them, I don’t see how being autonomous will help, unless all vehicles are autonomous.

Then why don’t you automate all cars in the next ten years?

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Originally posted by BBMW:
They probably will. But there isn't as much money to be made by doing that as there is for trucks. The working hours rule for drivers keeps trucks idle a large percentage of the time. Eliminate the driver, and the truck is driving a much larger percentage of the time.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
They probably will. But there isn't as much money to be made by doing that as there is for trucks. The working hours rule for drivers keeps trucks idle a large percentage of the time. Eliminate the driver, and the truck is driving a much larger percentage of the time.

That only improves efficiency for long, terminal-to-terminal freight. The majority of a driver's time is spent waiting on the shipper / receiver to unload. You are basically saying that A.I. can replace team drivers and inter-modal freight, which is a tiny fraction of the industry.

Look, you don't know anything about the industry. You think you understand, but your responses demonstrate that you have zero experience. Why don't we just table this for ten years and then we can revisit it then. In the meantime, quit pontificating about an industry in which you have no experience. We need drivers NOW, and constantly telling young folks that this industry is going away won't encourage new entrants.