Let’s just be real, Chris krispy is just there for the shrimp cocktail and hors d’oeuvres. He is as viable a candidate as I am.
Cmon man embrace reality.
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August 24, 2023, 04:47 PM
bobtheelf
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Originally posted by bobtheelf: He's working for the Trump campaign and aiming for a VP nod, no matter what he claims.
Being VP is no longer the sure path to the Presidency that it once was (most of the time). I'm not convinced that's his angle.
He might be banking on Trump being unviable for some reason and hoping to be able to step in as the heir apparent. What seems obvious to me is that he's playing a role and there's a different angle to his candidacy. I don't trust him. He's not trying to overtake Trump. He's trying to replace him.
August 24, 2023, 04:49 PM
stickman428
His answer to Bill Maher on the accusation of him angling for the VP slot was pretty fricking awesome.
We will see how it plays out but it was a pretty amazing answer.
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August 24, 2023, 04:51 PM
Mustang-PaPa
^^^^ Oh do tell, don't leave us hanging.
August 24, 2023, 05:33 PM
92fstech
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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa: ^^^^ Oh do tell, don't leave us hanging.
Nobody's hanging...it's already been discussed on page 2. Watch the video on that page posted by Chillem1. The portion you're looking for is about 33:30.
August 24, 2023, 07:35 PM
corsair
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
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Originally posted by bobtheelf: He's working for the Trump campaign and aiming for a VP nod, no matter what he claims.
Being VP is no longer the sure path to the Presidency that it once was (most of the time). I'm not convinced that's his angle.
I think a lot comes down to their prior experience and how much influence they can wield. A guy like Dan Quayle and Mike Pence were milquetoast personalities, they had zero force or, gravitas, their government time prior to being VP really didn't amount to much when it came to influencing issues when they were VP.
Al Gore was utterly wooden and stiff, his prior career as a representative and senator from TN I believe was largely unremarkable, with a couple of attempts at running for POTUS in-between.
A guy like Richard Nixon, his public career spanned being a representative from CA, being Eisenhower's VP, to succeeding Johnson, with a couple of breaks in-between. His personality was full of quirks but, he was charismatic enough that it stuck to people. LBJ, despite clashing with Kennedy leveraged his time in the Senate to rally and ram-home a number of bills.
August 25, 2023, 12:40 PM
Chris17404
The one thing I'd like to see Vivek do in upcoming debates is to remain more calm, cool, collected, and clearly articulate his thoughts like he does in his normal interviews. Don't let the attacks get to him as much. He can easily defend against them using his vision. I realize that is MUCH easier to say than to do. I think that'll be a big help to him. Still stay witty and aggressive, but just a bit more statesmanlike.
August 26, 2023, 01:58 AM
corsair
Vivek was recently, if not briefly on Colion Noir's podcast as well. Smart, articulate and not burdened with political rhetoric, he says all the right things for somebody who's shot guns but, is not an enthusiast or, 'gun guy'.
The media knives have started coming out. I'd say Vivek is firmly over target. I would be more than pleased to have him as a VP with Trump or as President.
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August 30, 2023, 02:16 PM
stickman428
The attacks from the right and left make me think he would be a decent VP. Hell, he can’t be worse than Pence.
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August 30, 2023, 02:21 PM
slosig
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Originally posted by stickman428: The attacks from the right and left make me think he would be a decent VP. Hell, he can’t be worse than Pence.
Other than the current one, it is hard to think of a lower bar.
ETA: I don’t know if VP is the right spot for him, particularly based on his comments around 33:30 of the Club Random interview w/ Bill Mar that chellim1 posted two. I would like to see him continue to work to effect positive change, perhaps as a part of President Trump’s administration, perhaps as a cooperating outsider, for the next four years, then run again in 2028 based on what he has accomplished. I really like what I hear from him. Before voting for him in 2028, I like to see some results from him as well.
August 30, 2023, 03:13 PM
stickman428
I’d take him over any career politician. Trump wasn’t a politician and the country was way better off while he was in office.
I’m done with polished politicians who are really just professional thieves and liars.
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August 30, 2023, 03:31 PM
chellim1
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I really like what I hear from him. Before voting for him in 2028, I like to see some results from him as well.
He's not going to be the nominee (2024) but he certainly is raising his profile. He has a lot more people talking than DeSantis does of late.
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