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Sounds like the border towns need to stock up on ammo to supply the influx of CA plates coming their way.

What's to be done with the extra tax revenue? I'm sure it will be put to good use leaning up SF...

I'm sure this will hit the courts and promptly deemed unconstitutional.
CA has already outlawed CA residents buying ammo out of state and importing into CA.
How do they enforce that? Are there 24 hour inspection stations at all border crossings?





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CA has already outlawed CA residents buying ammo out of state and importing into CA.


How would they even know? Confused




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I think it will eventually be struck down as a constitutional violation like a poll tax.




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Those of us not in California should be thanking them for lining up all these slam-dunk cases while we have the SCOTUS.

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I need to gather investors and buy an empty shell of a big box store in Yuma, Arizona and fill it with all of the things that can't be bought in California; ammunition, gas powered lawn equipment, plasma screen tv's, incandescent light bulbs, etc...




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CA has already outlawed CA residents buying ammo out of state and importing into CA.


How would they even know? Confused


Exactly! Why can't someone drive to a neighboring state and buy a bunch of ammo and bring it back to California?
 
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How is this different than the 11% federal excise tax on long guns and ammunition and 10% on handguns and pistols that has been in effect since 1919?

The courts have struck obscenely high (670%) tax on firearms as unconstitutional in Murphy v. Guerrero. However, the courts upheld a much smaller amount ($25 per firearm, $.01 per rimfire round, $.05 per centerfire round) in Guns Save Life, Inc. v. Ali.

That California chose 11% seems purposeful.
 
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So if you bought the gun out of state and brought it back to Commiefornia, I guess it would be treated as registering a car bought in that fashion and then taxed at the time of registering the firearm???

No way around this, I guess, unless you buy it out of state and then don't register it. But then if you have to "use" said firearm, you'd be in a heap of trouble??

Kinda confustigated here...... [scratching head]


The simple answer to your question is Don't move to Commiefornia. I would suggest that any conservatives still living in that future sub sea canyon sell their land to some ignorant liberal as a Winery for high dollars and get out of that state. I expect that once the liberal to conservative ratio gets into the high 90's God will smile and send that state into the ocean with lots of fire and brimstone.


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They also passed a law that starts 1-1-25 that FFL has to have every inch of their premises recorded 24 hours a day and saved for a year. The Terabytes needed for a year of storage depending on number of cameras is impressive and will be cost prohibitive to many small FFL which is their goal of course.


Does the recording law specify a minimum resolution requirement? Storage for 16x16 pixels per image wouldn’t be too onerous!
 
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How is this different than the 11% federal excise tax on long guns and ammunition and 10% on handguns and pistols that has been in effect since 1919?

The courts have struck obscenely high (670%) tax on firearms as unconstitutional in Murphy v. Guerrero. However, the courts upheld a much smaller amount ($25 per firearm, $.01 per rimfire round, $.05 per centerfire round) in Guns Save Life, Inc. v. Ali.

That California chose 11% seems purposeful.

Thanks for that observation. I was unaware.

But still glad that I have a lifetime supply of cheaply-purchased ammo in my loft. Smile



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Typical government. Tax the law abiding citizens think criminals will now follow the rules.
 
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Time to sell guns for $1 with a transfer fee or the special wrapping to make up the difference. For ammo $1 and the cost of special wrapping (plastic bag) makes up the difference.


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I think it will eventually be struck down as a constitutional violation like a poll tax.


I’d like to see that italicized by a court. Tax stamps could be included as a poll tax. Sales tax could be on the chopping block if the law is consistent



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CA has already outlawed CA residents buying ammo out of state and importing into CA.


How would they even know? Confused


Exactly! Why can't someone drive to a neighboring state and buy a bunch of ammo and bring it back to California?


They could if they are willing to take the chance of getting caught at the border crossing.
 
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Exactly! Why can't someone drive to a neighboring state and buy a bunch of ammo and bring it back to California?


They could if they are willing to take the chance of getting caught at the border crossing.


Are there checkpoints? (... asked the guy who's never driven near California.)




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Exactly! Why can't someone drive to a neighboring state and buy a bunch of ammo and bring it back to California?


They could if they are willing to take the chance of getting caught at the border crossing.


Are there checkpoints? (... asked the guy who's never driven near California.)


That was my attempt at humor. There were NOT actual checkpoints the last time I entered California(but that was probably twenty years ago).
 
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Okay, just checking. Big Grin




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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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That was my attempt at humor. There were NOT actual checkpoints the last time I entered California(but that was probably twenty years ago).
There are agricultural checkpoints, at least on the interstates, though the last time I went through they were unmanned.

This is likely more FUD, and a question of whether one wants to “follows the law” or “pick and choose the laws they choose to follow”. Much of the nonsense passed in Sacramento almost seems designed to push folks toward the latter rather than the former.
 
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Exactly! Why can't someone drive to a neighboring state and buy a bunch of ammo and bring it back to California?


They could if they are willing to take the chance of getting caught at the border crossing.


Are there checkpoints? (... asked the guy who's never driven near California.)

CA DOJ LEO are known to have staked-out parking lots of retailers and gun shows in neighboring Reno, Carson City, Las Vegas, Yuma, etc... taking note of vehicles with CA plates and observing the purchases those owners make. Arrests and prosecutions have been made, usually the most careless and obvious are the ones getting caught.
 
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