Waiting on Newsome's signature.


https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ve-new-tax-guns-ammo

Two weeks ago, the California Legislature passed a new excise tax on the sales price of all firearms, firearm precursor parts, and ammunition. The 11% tax, paid in addition to sales taxes (base statewide sales tax of 7.25%), would take effect on July 1, 2024. As of Thursday, Assembly Bill 28 remains on Gov. Gavin Newsom's desk.

Gov. Newsom has until Oct. 14 to either sign the bill into law or veto it.


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If voting can’t be taxed and first amendment rights can’t be taxed why can 2nd amendment rights be taxed?

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
If voting can’t be taxed and first amendment rights can’t be taxed why can 2nd amendment rights be taxed?

It can, when the commies are in charge.

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If voting can’t be taxed and first amendment rights can’t be taxed

...give them time.

So if you bought the gun out of state and brought it back to Commiefornia, I guess it would be treated as registering a car bought in that fashion and then taxed at the time of registering the firearm???

No way around this, I guess, unless you buy it out of state and then don't register it. But then if you have to "use" said firearm, you'd be in a heap of trouble??

Kinda confustigated here...... [scratching head]

Talk about using every play in the book.
They are not shy about trying anything .
If only we had the same balls

The only surprise is that it was ‘only’ 11%.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
The only surprise is that it was ‘only’ 11%.

Give them time.

Sounds like the border towns need to stock up on ammo to supply the influx of CA plates coming their way.

What's to be done with the extra tax revenue? I'm sure it will be put to good use leaning up SF...

I'm sure this will hit the courts and promptly deemed unconstitutional.

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Originally posted by ugeesta:
I'm sure this will hit the courts and promptly deemed unconstitutional.

They're in the 9th Circus. So CA will keep it in place until SCOTUS strikes it eventually.

Place a 2mil% tax on abortions, or gay cakes or whatever someone doesn't like. Fuck it, lets get crazy.

Silliness.

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They're in the 9th Circus. So CA will keep it in place until SCOTUS strikes it eventually.

Hopefully it finds its way before Judge Benitez.

When CA passed a law several years ago that made online ammo purchases impractical, I stocked up, big time, before it went into effect. My heirs will have to figure out what to do with the rest of it.

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Originally posted by XinTX:

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
The only surprise is that it was ‘only’ 11%.

Give them time.

The state has the most outrageous car registration fees, hundreds of dollars, and don't be surprised they drastically increase fees on gun registration and assorted DROS fees in the future.

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Originally posted by Skull Leader:

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They're in the 9th Circus. So CA will keep it in place until SCOTUS strikes it eventually.

Hopefully it finds its way before Judge Benitez.

Gov. Newsom Attacks Federal Judge As Child-Killing, Extremist, Right-Wing Zealot Owned By The NRA

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ing-zealot-owned-nra

This week, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) went on Twitter/X to denounce U.S. Judge Roger T. Benitez as “an extremist, right-wing zealot with no regard to [sic] human life.”

Oh Gav is big mad after judge Benitez finally laid down the law. Bruen is the gift that keeps giving

They also passed a law that starts 1-1-25 that FFL has to have every inch of their premises recorded 24 hours a day and saved for a year. The Terabytes needed for a year of storage depending on number of cameras is impressive and will be cost prohibitive to many small FFL which is their goal of course.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
When CA passed a law several years ago that made online ammo purchases impractical, I stocked up, big time, before it went into effect. My heirs will have to figure out what to do with the rest of it.

great minds think alike.

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Originally posted by ugeesta:
Sounds like the border towns need to stock up on ammo to supply the influx of CA plates coming their way.

What's to be done with the extra tax revenue? I'm sure it will be put to good use leaning up SF...

I'm sure this will hit the courts and promptly deemed unconstitutional.

CA has already outlawed CA residents buying ammo out of state and importing into CA.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
So if you bought the gun out of state and brought it back to Commiefornia, I guess it would be treated as registering a car bought in that fashion and then taxed at the time of registering the firearm???

No way around this, I guess, unless you buy it out of state and then don't register it. But then if you have to "use" said firearm, you'd be in a heap of trouble??

Kinda confustigated here...... [scratching head]

Re the taxing, since one can only buy handguns in the state residence (Federal law), unless one moves into CA or has residency in another state and buys the handgun there, it would have to go through a CA FFL to do the transfer. FFLs have been required to collect CA sales tax on the transfer for several years unless there is a receipt with the gun showing the seller collected it. I’m sure the state will just require them to collect this tax too.

Not sure what happens with CA resident holders of both an 03 FFL and a CA DOJ Certificate of Eligibility (COE) who can still buy ammo online and have it shipped directly to the address on their FFL. I’d guess they are liable for the tax and are responsible to figure out how to pay it.
What level of effort will go into tracking these folks down I dunno.

Wrt being in trouble over an unregistered gun, Nah. A friend ran into this recently. He was applying for a LTC (License To Carry Concealed, a CHL or CCW in other states). His application got held up because his P229 that he brought in with him when he moved here wasn’t registered. Looking up the law, when one moves into the state they are supposed to register any guns they bring in within 60 days. Fill out the form (or as many forms as needed to list them all, pay your $19 fee, and you’re good to go. In my friend’s case, he did this for the P229 long after the sixty days was up. He provided the Sheriff’s Office with copies of the registration application and check and his application for the LTC was back on track.

I’m sure that if one is doing dirtbag things with an unregistered gun the DA will come up with some enhancement for it, but other than that I suspect you’d have a hard time finding an LEO who gave a rat’s rump whether on not your gun or guns were registered.

I swear they pass some of these laws more for the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) factor than anything else.

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Originally posted by berto:
CA has already outlawed CA residents buying ammo out of state and importing into CA.

True, but read the law as there are several exceptions.