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Bomb threat in middle school and the principal won't let police investigate



School bomb threat


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Posts: 7959 | Location: C-bus, Ohio | Registered: December 17, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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That Principal and Secretary are morons! Both should be removed from their positions.


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Posts: 1689 | Location: Lehigh County,PA-USA | Registered: February 20, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the police tell them to pound sand if there's an immediate threat to public safety, or an assumed immediate threat?




 
Posts: 6545 | Location: Just outside of Boston | Registered: March 28, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the police tell them to pound sand if there's an immediate threat to public safety, or an assumed immediate threat?


This. Why wouldn’t officers just tell the principal he’s obstructing an ongoing investigation and put him in handcuffs and arrest him if he doesn’t stop? Worried about his feelings?
 
Posts: 1268 | Location: NE Indiana  | Registered: January 20, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Principal Stops Officers from Investigating a Bomb Threat

The narrator makes the point that she's overseeing a public building, and she's a public employee of the school district, which is a political subdivision, accountable to the public and to the County and State.

However, the officer says that he's going to contact the teacher's union and then starts to get some cooperation. Unfortunately, the teacher's union is the true power structure in public education.



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Plus it's not worth the hassle to arrest these two idiots for obstruction. All they are going to do is cry to the ACLU and NAACP and media that the big bad officer was mean.


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Is there such a thing as a preemptive class action suit parents could file against the principal to hold her personally liable for the safety of their children?

I would name each school board member as well and I bet the principal would be escorted from the building and hopefully rendered unemployable in such a capacity ever again.
 
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Panic in schools is everywhere. Two .22LR rounds were found outside a Massachusetts school.

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Unfortunately, the teacher's union is the true power structure in public education.


This.

There was a local effort to take back our school board by supporting better candidates, but the amount of money backing the union endorsed candidates was unreal.

they dug deep to find any dirt on our candidates they could find. Things like "She's MAGA and a fundamentalist Christian and will teach only creationism"

Just crap that makes no sense.

It all sounds great when someone says, "Just start attending the school board meetings and get involved" until you actually go, (like I did) and realize you are behind enemy lines with a deputy assigned to the event who will do whatever he is told by the existing board.

You take too much time to speak, the board nods at the deputy, and in turn the deputy gives you "the look" and you realize you are done.
 
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I looked up the policy: "In the Columbus City School District (CCSD), building principals, in cooperation with local authorities, are responsible for developing and implementing procedures for responding to bomb threats, with the superintendent cooperating fully with the police."

According to the policy, once notified and on scene, CPD takes charge. "The Columbus Police Department and/or the school district's safety and security team would likely take charge of investigating the threat, assessing its credibility, and coordinating further actions."

It would seem that Principal Natalie James wasn't compliant with said policy by failing to cooperate with local authorities. Not sure where the superintendent was in all this...

Meanwhile, there was a potentially deadly threat to hundreds of students. Somewhere somebody has some misguided priorities of the highest order. If this principal cannot coorperate with law enforcement, per the policy, she must be terminated. Lives were at risk.
 
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That whole exchange is beyond surreal, yet another reason you couldn't pay me enough to be a cop. Mad


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The intransigence and combative posture from both the secretary and that principal is reflective of the current attitudes within public school systems across the country.

I have no doubt there's many good, solid teachers out there but, there's quite a few who are hopelessly misguided and unwilling to deal with the criminal behavior from students thus, the four walls of the school become a prison for the victim & other students.
 
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Cuff 'em both to a radiator and go about business.
 
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Not sure where the superintendent was in all this...
Hiding under a rock, somewhere. Roll Eyes


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That whole exchange is beyond surreal, yet another reason you couldn't pay me enough to be a cop. Mad


Mike Royko, a famous Chicago newspaper columnist years ago, said that anybody who runs for office of Alderman in Chicago should be submitted to psychiatric evaluation because he's probably crazy. If he won the election, he should be immediately imprisoned because he's obviously corrupt.

This should be applied in spades to anybody who works in the school system!!!


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No news story? I'd like to see how the school district responded to the situation. Suspensions before firings, hopefully.
 
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Bomb threat in middle school and the principal won't let police investigate

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Some schools get three per week. Good investigation of the source is what is needed. Ask dispatchers how many false alarms they get per week.
 
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And what should happen if this would turn out to be real and it detonated. Just what would the reaction be by the parents of the kids injured or killed? I think we can already guess that answer; the cops would be blamed for not doing their jobs, and major civil disruptions would occur.


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Where are the parents in all of this?

Default should be conservative and all threats handled as though true unless explicitly decided otherwise. School and Parents can have a voice otherwise.

Who really owns the Decision though? Is it the principal? LE? Super? Mayor? Who?




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Posts: 13527 | Location: In the gilded cage | Registered: December 09, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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No news story? I'd like to see how the school district responded to the situation. Suspensions before firings, hopefully.

Not that I’ve been able to find.

I’d like to know when the threat was made. The two officers don’t appear to be EOD or K9, so it doesn’t appear that there’s a immediate, credible threat happening at that school.

The officer took the bait into a stupid argument that he couldn’t win. It’s like watching a person argue with an officer who is writing the person a ticket. The person will not win at that point. The officer couldn’t win against the principal either.
 
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