For many years I have heard about Wayne LaPierre getting paid too much money. I think that is being discussed in another thread. A lot of people think he is over paid and takes advantage of his position. I think we want the best possible person to head the NRA. But how much should we pay him? As much has the head of GM? Has much as a professional athlete? Maybe has much as the manager of a McDonald's? I have talked to a lot of people about this. They all think he is paid too much. But know one seems to know how much he should be paid. Does anyone know what the head of GOA or SAF makes? Who decides their salaries? It seems one thing the anti gun and pro gun people have in common is dislike for the chief executive of the NRA.

200,000 dollars a year. No bonuses, no golden parachute. No additional perks. You get paid transportation to wherever your JOB DUTIES take you. Your meals get paid when you're on the JOB. You buy your own fucking suits.

Are you working for gun owners, or are you working for yourself?

Humility. Honor. Duty. No gravy train. The last guy ran that thing right off the fucking rails. Serve the American gun owner. Serve the Constitution, or don't fucking bother.

I agree with Para on this, but you have to bear in mind the company the top NRA exec. keeps. There will be very highly paid lobbyists, lawyers, CEOs, etc. on your calendar every day. Unless you're independently wealthy and don't need the job, it wouldn't take long before you figure it's just too lucrative to not go elsewhere. I used to live across the street from the NRA HQ in Fairfax. $200k annual salary is just middle class in that area. I'd want someone with the experience and expertise to do a great job and to feel like he was making about what he needed to make to focus his full attention on the job and not worrying about paying his bills and saving for retirement.

I was gonna say $150,000 per year plus travel expenses and per diem. That’s it. No extra bullsh*t…

Don’t have to exactly be a Rhodes Scholar to do the job, eh??

According to salary.com the median salary for a non-profit CEO is $187k and the median bonus is $117k. I'd go with that and tie the $117k bonus to tangible metrics that are important to NRA members.

150K.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I agree with Para on this, but you have to bear in mind the company the top NRA exec. keeps. There will be very highly paid lobbyists, lawyers, CEOs, etc. on your calendar every day. Unless you're independently wealthy and don't need the job, it wouldn't take long before you figure it's just too lucrative to not go elsewhere.

Then the greedy bastard can fucking go elsewhere. We need someone in that position who puts the American gun owner first.

Years and years of LaPierre's lavish lifestyle bullshit with money from gun owners who wanted nothing more than an advocate acting on their behalf, has made it so that I don't want to hear any shit about what they COULD be doing with their talent and how much money they COULD be making. I don't want to fucking hear it. If they can make more money helming a company that makes underwear, then they should go and make fucking panties.

We need a true advocate in that position, and for the right man, 200K would be sufficient and he'd be grateful to have that salary. If such a person does not exist, then that's a damn shame, but one way or the other, the NRA should NEVER AGAIN have a parasite like Wayne LaPierre stealing money from American gunowners and giving them nothing in return.

For decades, the American gunowner has been losing their God-given rights by attrition and this son of a bitch lived off our backs and pranced around like he was Goddamned Nero.

That bastard should never again show his face in public, but he doesn't know what shame is, nor humility, nor service, except to himself.

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Originally posted by Ironworker:
Does anyone know what the head of GOA or SAF makes? Who decides their salaries?

Registered 501(c)3 & 501(c)4 non-profit agencies are required to file annual IRS Form 990 returns documenting their expenses. These returns are public info.

NRA
https://projects.propublica.or...anizations/530116130

In 2022, Executive Compensation and Other Salaries & Wages accounted for 17.7% of total expenses. For some reason, the breakdown of salaries for Key Employees & Officers is incomplete, but we can look at 2021 to get an idea.

In 2021, Wayne LaPierre as Executive VP was compensated $1,093,337 + $50,531 for Other. Executive Director Chris Cox was compensated a whopping $6,183,381. Thirteen other officers were compensated 6-figure salaries of at least $270K for their positions.

GOA
https://projects.propublica.or...anizations/521256643

In 2022, Executive Compensation and Other Salaries & Wages accounted for 16.2% of total expenses. I don't know how many executives it was split among, but total Executive Compensation was $374,272.

In 2021, Chairman Tim Macy was paid $126K.
Executive VP John Velleco was paid $93,973 + $31,393 Related + $48,529 Other.
Senior VP Erich Pratt was paid $78,346 + $35K Related + $57,554 Other.

SAF
https://projects.propublica.or...anizations/916184167

In 2022, Executive Compensation and Other Salaries & Wages accounted for 4.0% of total expenses. Director/VP Alan Gottlieb was paid $36K + $12,666 Other. He's the only Key Employee & Officer who appears to draw a salary. The others, including Director/Pres. Massad Ayoob are paid $0.

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
According to salary.com the median salary for a non-profit CEO is $187k and the median bonus is $117k.

There's another interesting article about that at:
https://www.causeiq.com/insigh...aries-at-nonprofits/

It's interesting to see how of the top 50 highest paid non-profit COOs, only two are not part of healthcare or education fields. Those two are:

#1. Ronald Price of the PGA Tour, paid $9,288,216 in 2021
and
#46. Donald Remy of the NCAA, paid $1,761,612 in 2021

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Originally posted by iron chef:

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Originally posted by Ironworker:
Does anyone know what the head of GOA or SAF makes? Who decides their salaries?

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In 2021, Wayne LaPierre as Executive VP was compensated $1,093,337 + $50,531 for Other. Executive Director Chris Cox was compensated a whopping $6,183,381. Thirteen other officers were compensated 6-figure salaries of at least $270K for their positions....

I want high-caliber (pun intended) people who are well compensated in these positions but this is atrocious. Headlines this week about Wayne spending a $ Million on charter jet flights to the bahamas. The organization lost sight of their mission. Long overdue for a major house cleaning. This charge shouldn't be lead by the NYAG. Gun owners should have done it in-house 2 decades ago.

I'd answer whatever the market demands to obtain one of the very most qualified candidates. This truly is a very important role, and we cannot know that number without solid market analysis. But I believe it is safe to say that such talent could be had within six figures. A Google did not readily provide clarity on WP's income, but many numbers shown were in the seven figures.

That said, often comp for executives looks higher than it is because public disclosures for non-profit executives rolls up every benefit into a loaded labor rate including insurance, retirement plan matches etc. Yes I agree it's all comp, and it's real. But when someone asks you what you make (if you were to wish to answer such question), you wouldn't answer as such.

From what I've read besides his salary 'we' paid for his new 6.5 million dollar house because he needed it for protection..... I'd ask him to his face.... why don't you protect yourself and yours the same way I do?

I may start a separate thread on the NRA...I'm trying to figure out why the organization needs 79 Board of Directors and how did that come about? I presume they are each compensated for getting to and attending a meeting...figure out what that cost.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
...'we' paid for his new 6.5 million dollar house because he needed it for protection....

No, 'we' did not. You need to go back and read oddball's post in the Bye Bye Wayne thread, bottom of page 3.

There is discussion about the board in there, too.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
150K.

That's what I'm thinking.

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Originally posted by Ironworker:
But how much should we pay him? As much has the head of GM? Has much as a professional athlete?

Someone like Michael Jordan, or a CEO at GM have responsibilities in creating a product the masses will purchase, and for the companies they work for to increase in value and revenue. Jordan did this by winning championships and marketing his image to a global audience that not only vastly increased the value of his team, but his industry as well. Decisions that a CEO makes should result in increased sales, great marketing, and increased wealth. This is not the business model of an organization like the NRA which is financed through memberships and donations; they don't "sell" a product for profit, to increase the value of the company for stockholders, etc.

The POTUS salary is approx. $400,000 per year. Of course we know that is pennies compared to the lifestyle the job entails. Salary wasn't the biggest issue with LaPierre, it was the unfettered access to membership money, without accountability because all of the higher ups at the NRA were doing the same thing.

As far as doing his job, LaPierre has failed; membership rarely has gone over 6 million (the U.S. has approx. 75-90 million gun owners), and in recent years, they have lost approx. 2 million members, filing for bankruptcy. Any CEO would be fired for this kind of performance.

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Originally posted by iron chef:

In 2022, Executive Compensation and Other Salaries & Wages accounted for 17.7% of total expenses.

That is an eye popping number for me, 17.7% of expenses.

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
According to salary.com the median salary for a non-profit CEO is $187k and the median bonus is $117k. I'd go with that and tie the $117k bonus to tangible metrics that are important to NRA members.

That sounds reasonable for the NRA Chief.
Not cheap, but not extravagant.

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Originally posted by oddball:
As far as doing his job, LaPierre has failed; membership rarely has gone over 6 million (the U.S. has approx. 75-90 million gun owners), and in recent years, they have lost approx. 2 million members, filing for bankruptcy. Any CEO would be fired for this kind of performance.

This is a great opportunity for tying one KPI (key performance indicator) to next CEO's bonus. For example:

5 million members by year end 2024. Then give it x% (e.g. 25%) of the available bonus.

6 million members by year end 2025. Then give it x% (e.g. 25%) of the available bonus.

7.5 million members by year end 2026. Then give it x% (e.g. 25%) of the available bonus.

9 million members by year end 2027. Then give it x% (e.g. 25%) of the available bonus.

It would motivate the next CEO to prioritize membership and eliminate barriers (i.e. reasons former members didn't renew).

My goal is for the NRA to once again be the 800 pound gun rights gorilla. Having a very large number of members gives them a lot of muscle to flex with Congressional Critters and other elected officials whose #1 concern is being reelected.

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I believe Para has the salary and benefits pretty close. I might add a reasonable housing allowance since the entire DC area is expensive.

One doesn't lead an organization like the NRA to become wealthy. One leads the NRA because they believe in our Rights as Americans. Salary and benefits should be in line with the values of NRA members (no suits, no jets, no bullshit).

Something just north of what other similar organizations pay. The NRA has been the premier gun rights organization for ages, and they should be paying their executives to reflect that.

What they are actually paying them however seems to be truly insane, and totally disconnected from other organizations. It's not just the salary however, it's that they seem to have used the NRA coffers as a slush fund for whatever the hell they wanted really, not just targeted at preserving our rights like they should have been.