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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Like I said before... do it in a stadium filled with screaming supporters. Have flags, fireworks, marching bands.

Make it a pro-USA rally so over the top it will be a spectacle everyone will watch and remember.

And make it a full-on Trump style assault on the entire swamp, no holding back.

That would only work if the President also used his Constitutional authority to convene both houses of Congress at that location--I don't think it's ever been done, but the Constitution gives him that authority.

flashguy

So, IMO, he should hold it at RFK stadium. One section taped off for the "dignitaries" the rest open to the public.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Trump is completely correct to not propose giving the SOTU anywhere but the house.
Suggestions here of alternatives such as Twitter are a joke.
The perception of that would be an embarrassment.
The November election was bad. Pelosi is bad and she's one up on Trump here .
Shutting down her plane isn't going to work.

You're not serious are you?

She's petty, the Dems have no actual response or reason to not fund the wall, and polling on the subject is not relevant as Trump is doing what has to be done to protect the citizens.

he should send a two sentence report to Congress.

'The State of the Union is good. It could be much better if not for the democrats shutting the government.'

he should then give the real state of the union address to the people. No advance copies to Congress or to any of the media outlets.

let them watch it real time, react real time, and watch the dems eat themselves trying to rebutt it.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Shutting down her plane isn't going to work.

Piss off Keystoner, you closet Democrat. If you're really that clueless, take it somewhere else.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Shutting down her plane isn't going to work.

Piss off Keystoner, you closet Democrat. If you're really that clueless, take it somewhere else.

Closet Democrat? Funny. You don't seem to like discussion unless it's with people who agree with you.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Shutting down her plane isn't going to work.

Piss off Keystoner, you closet Democrat. If you're really that clueless, take it somewhere else.

Closet Democrat? Funny. You don't seem to like discussion unless it's with people who agree with you.

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Originally posted by Strambo:
She's petty, the Dems have no actual response or reason to not fund the wall, and polling on the subject is not relevant as Trump is doing what has to be done to protect the citizens.

Are you talking about the same pollsters that predicted Clinton was going to win the election by double digits? Those polls? If so, you're right, the current polling is irrelevant.

Jim

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Shutting down her plane isn't going to work.

Piss off Keystoner, you closet Democrat. If you're really that clueless, take it somewhere else.

Closet Democrat? Funny. You don't seem to like discussion unless it's with people who agree with you.

Listen buddy boy. If you think I'm going to tolerate leftist HORSE SHIT in this forum, when it's every freaking where else I go, you've got another thing coming. I don't give a fuck about what you think about how I handle things here. If you don't like it, then leave. I mean it. If you don't like it, just fucking leave, and take your smarmy remarks about President Trump with you. That kind of shit will not be missed.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
take your smarmy remarks about President Trump with you.

This is what I don't get. My remarks aren't smarmy. Just because I don't agree with every single thing Trump does doesn't make me a closet Democrat. Just because I don't think there is nothing Trump can do wrong, doesn't mean I don't support him. How am I going to get an opposing opinion on something specific I disagree with on this forum if I can't even post it. Not that I think this forum owes me that, I just want to be clear.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Shutting down her plane isn't going to work.

Piss off Keystoner, you closet Democrat. If you're really that clueless, take it somewhere else.

Closet Democrat? Funny. You don't seem to like discussion unless it's with people who agree with you.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
My remarks aren't smarmy.

Oh, horse fucking SHIT. I just quoted one of those remarks from you. Now I am not going to waste my time with this. Cut the shit or leave.

Trump just sent a letter to Pelosi saying he plans on being there the 29th.

Very different than his tweet.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23...to-pelosi/index.html

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Which was negated by his tweet of 9:18 pm as noted on the previous page of this thread...

Trump Playing the Long Game With State of the Union Deferral

The last column I wrote for this space called for a “People’s State of the Union,” a massive Donald Trump rally delivered in front of thousands of supporters, a sublime statement to Nancy Pelosi that said: “If you don’t want me in your room, I’ll find someplace else.”

It was fun to write, and fun to think about: a State of the Union speech transformed into a massive MAGA spectacle; she’d regret the snub for sure. Other creative ideas arose: deliver it at the border; deliver it down the hall in the Senate.

But late Wednesday night, the president decided there would be no alternative address, no high drama as he took to some other stage to hammer Democrats about the standoff that they could solve in an hour. He would in fact defer to Speaker Pelosi’s yanking of her House chamber invitation and schedule the address when the shutdown is over. “There is no venue that can compete with the history, tradition and importance of the House Chamber,” he tweeted, promising “a great State of the Union address in the near future.”

The immediate question was not whether his haters would celebrate this momentary surrender; they promptly did. On the left and among his tormentors who still think they are on the right, the mockery was instant, ridiculing a supposed tough, deal-making Trump for bowing to the superior skills of Nancy Pelosi.

But part of their glee assumed that his base would also see it as a dispiriting capitulation—that Trump supporters would recoil, slump their shoulders and wonder what happened to the fighter they voted for.

Well, he’s still there, and the mutiny is not happening.

The reason is clear: Trump is playing a long game here that extends far beyond a thumb in Pelosi’s eye delivered through some relocated State of the Union. His eye is on the only ball that matters—border security. And no matter how his maneuvers may strike any observer, one thing is certain: he does not do anything that he does not expect to accrue to his benefit.

So what are the benefits of bowing to Pelosi at this moment? As this week blends into the weekend, there will be deep examination of the president’s decision to delay his address. Some valuable takeaways will arise, foremost among them that it is Pelosi who offended tradition by rescinding an invitation issued after the shutdown began, and it is Trump who cleaves to that tradition by agreeing to wait until it can be delivered in its customary place.

This very behavior—letting her have her way for this chapter—is deliciously counterintuitive, disarming the critics who berate Trump as unable to restrain his bullying instincts. Now, not only has he offered DACA protections which are a worthy compromise to secure wall funding, he has now yielded when the world expected him to double down. There is one reason the State of the Union is delayed: Nancy Pelosi. There is one reason wall funding is blocked: Nancy Pelosi. These are valuable impressions that could solidify in the coming days, adding to pressure on Democrats to agree to a border security figure smaller than what government wastes over an average weekend.

Now fast-forward to whatever evening that actually finds us watching the State of the Union. There are clear benefits to the delayed gratification now underway:

The political theater of the alternative address would have been enormously satisfying for the base, but may have ultimately been empty calories. It would have been derided as a stunt if moved outside the Capitol, and surely attended by crowds of seething Trump-haters who would have received as much coverage as the supportive throng inside. Even if moved 200 yards down the hall to the Senate, Democrats would have boycotted, arguing that it was not a “real” State of the Union.

Well, it’s going to be real now. Real uncomfortable, for Democrats who will be tradition-bound to attend a speech guaranteed to contain a lengthy scolding by a president happy to regale the attendees with his take on why the government was shut down for so long, and why border security is so hard to achieve. That captive audience is just one reason why waiting will prove beneficial.

Another is the guest list. Any one of several important figures could have been brought to the stage at a Trump event substituting for the State of the Union, but welcoming them onto that famous House gallery balcony has even more value. Maybe that’s when a few maliciously maligned Covington Catholic High School students and families get a deserved recognition. And most importantly, it would be a fitting occasion to welcome some loved ones of Americans murdered by people who would not have been able to kill if stronger borders kept them out of the country.

So, sure, I would have enjoyed the opportunistically relocated State of the Union. But in sidestepping that tactic for the more traditional approach, displaying restraint and even accommodation of a political foe, President Trump positions himself for the far more important bottom line: fighting for the border security he has promised since he announced he was running for office.

Let mockers enjoy a day of finger-pointing. They will be disappointed when the Trump base does not peel away from him, and positively despondent when they see that once again, he knew exactly what he was doing.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
take your smarmy remarks about President Trump with you.

This is what I don't get. My remarks aren't smarmy. Just because I don't agree with every single thing Trump does doesn't make me a closet Democrat. Just because I don't think there is nothing Trump can do wrong, doesn't mean I don't support him. How am I going to get an opposing opinion on something specific I disagree with on this forum if I can't even post it. Not that I think this forum owes me that, I just want to be clear.

Do not know you but here is a word of advice: Quit while you are ahead!

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
take your smarmy remarks about President Trump with you.

This is what I don't get. My remarks aren't smarmy. Just because I don't agree with every single thing Trump does doesn't make me a closet Democrat. Just because I don't think there is nothing Trump can do wrong, doesn't mean I don't support him. How am I going to get an opposing opinion on something specific I disagree with on this forum if I can't even post it. Not that I think this forum owes me that, I just want to be clear.

Do not know you but here is a word of advice: Quit while you are ahead!

Thanks for the advice.

EZ-B, good read, thanks!
Can’t wait for President Trump’s SOTU address!

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...he-shutdown-n2539969

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Last week, House GOP voted to pay federal employees their 1st paycheck of 2019, despite shutdown. Only 6 Dems voted with us. It failed.

Dem priority is not paying workers or opening gov't. It is opposing Trump

The House rejected a GOP measure to pay furloughed workers but keep the government closed in a 222-195 vote


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For second time in two weeks, House Dems (minus 10 defectors) defeat GOP effort to ensure federal workers from closed agencies — including furloughed — would receive their first paychecks of ‘19. Pelosi Inc. voted no. Because they just care so much!

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With 13 Democratic defections this time, Nancy Pelosi's House majority again shot down another Republican effort to get paychecks to these federal workers. The GOP motion would send the Democratic bill back to committee, to be replaced with the following verbiage: "Provide for the payments of salaries for federal employees during the entirety of the lapse in appropriations that began on December 22."

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ral-workers-n2540208

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has officially sent Democrats home for a three-day weekend as the government shutdown continues. Federal workers will miss a second paycheck tomorrow.

Democrats have repeatedly voted against a measure that would pay federal workers.

Actually, Keystoner, it was unduly harsh of me to show you the door over this, and for that, you have my apology.