I feel bad for the officers having to do that but that machete monster showed he was looking for a fight. I was glad to see the poor cashier at the store was ok after the swing that monster took at her.He was doing evil and this is what happens when you do that.
August 17, 2024, 10:11 AM
220-9er
They tried but gave him way too much opportunity to endanger people in the store where they had less control. The Taser was always going to be an unlikely solution with the clothing he was wearing. I don't think he ever intended to give it up based on his statements outside.
I don't think he ever intended to give it up based on his statements outside.
I think he found exactly what he was looking for.
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August 17, 2024, 12:51 PM
tatortodd
Details on YouTube:
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Lancaster, California — On February 6, 2024, at 9:28 a.m., Lancaster Station deputies responded to a business in the 43500 block of 20th Street West, Lancaster, regarding a call of a business disturbance. The caller stated a male, armed with a machete, was at the location. The male was later identified as 38-year-old Jonathan Scott Foster of Lancaster. Deputies located Foster standing outside the front entrance to the business with a machete in his hand and an additional machete affixed to his waistband. He was given numerous commands to drop the machete but refused to comply. After several minutes Foster walked into the open business which was occupied by numerous customers. Deputies on scene fired a taser multiple times and launched several 40MM foam batons at Foster, but they had minimal effect.
After the deployment of a third less-lethal weapon attempt, Foster charged at deputy personnel while still armed with the machete and a deputy-involved shooting occurred. Foster sustained several gunshot wounds to his upper and lower torso. Deputies rendered first aid until the arrival of Los Angeles County Fire Department paramedics. Foster was transported to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead. Two machetes, approximately 24 inches in length, were recovered at the scene. There were no other people injured in the incident. During the investigation, investigators discovered that earlier in the day Foster burglarized a local gas station in the city of Lancaster. During the incident, Foster shattered the front glass door to the business and attacked a female employee with the machete. The victim suffered a severe laceration to her hand and was treated at a local hospital.
Hope the clerk was OK.
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August 17, 2024, 12:57 PM
Sig2340
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
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I don't think he ever intended to give it up based on his statements outside.
I think he found exactly what he was looking for.
He is persecuted no more, so he got what he sought.
Nice is overrated
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August 17, 2024, 12:59 PM
Blackmore
A legally armed American would have the same chance as the deputies against a machete wielding assailant unlike victims of knife/machete attacks in the UK.
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August 17, 2024, 03:45 PM
uvahawk
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er: They tried but gave him way too much opportunity to endanger people in the store where they had less control. The Taser was always going to be an unlikely solution with the clothing he was wearing. I don't think he ever intended to give it up based on his statements outside.
Agree! Initial responding officer did it by the book. Unfortunately, it went downhill from there. The thick clothing should have been an indicator that Taser would not work.
August 17, 2024, 04:22 PM
snoris
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Originally posted by uvahawk:
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Originally posted by 220-9er: They tried but gave him way too much opportunity to endanger people in the store where they had less control. The Taser was always going to be an unlikely solution with the clothing he was wearing. I don't think he ever intended to give it up based on his statements outside.
Agree! Initial responding officer did it by the book. Unfortunately, it went downhill from there. The thick clothing should have been an indicator that Taser would not work.
Backup officers meant well, but there's gotta be only one voice giving instructions, period. The suspect was probably hearing more than one voice in his head already.
August 17, 2024, 04:42 PM
TigerDore
The problem was resolved.
August 17, 2024, 05:34 PM
Cookster
He’ll never know who sent him a nice Valentine card and a box of chocolates.
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August 17, 2024, 07:20 PM
flesheatingvirus
Tasers, REALLY? He’s holding a goddamn deadly weapon, won’t drop it, and keeps moving to where innocents may be hurt. SHOOT HIM.
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August 17, 2024, 08:36 PM
sgalczyn
I've seen this before:
"No matter where you go - there you are"
August 17, 2024, 10:58 PM
nhtagmember
He was appropriately ventilated and the officer did very well with multiple rounds on the target.
August 18, 2024, 05:57 AM
RichardC
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Originally posted by nhtagmember: He was appropriately ventilated and the officer did very well with multiple rounds on the target.
Did we hear eleven shots? Fourteen? Were they all from one source? All 9MM's from state-of-the-art red-dotted, maxi-round-count striker-fired sidearms? Did they all penetrate 14-16" and stop within the soon to be carcass?
Could we see a diagram of where all the officers and civilian no-shoots were located in relation to the suicide-by-cop looneytune?
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August 18, 2024, 07:32 AM
92fstech
Well, that was predictable (up to and including the clueless member of the public who tried to walk between the four cops with guns drawn and the suspect to get into the store).
De-escalation is a concept that's being pushed heavily by people who don't understand it, and the criminals are even getting in on the game. I've had people screaming at me before from the back of the squad car saying "you were supposed to de-escalate me!"
You can't de-escalate somebody. That's a choice they have to make for themselves. You can bring a measure of order and calm into a situation and create an environment where it's easy for the suspect to comply, which these officers did well during the initial contact, but ultimately the suspect has to make the choice to go along with the program. In this case he chose not to, and the outcome is entirely on him.
August 18, 2024, 10:03 AM
vthoky
Fairly early in the video, I was goofball thinking, "what would be the result if the store manager could turn off or cut the power to the sliding door, to keep it from opening as Mister Twoblade backs up toward it?"
It might have lessened the chance for people in the store to be interference in the process, but I don't know if it would have helped or hindered the officers at the scene.
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I do know the switch for doors like that is often right at the door facing, so it would have been dangerous for someone to approach it.
God bless America.
August 18, 2024, 03:15 PM
tacfoley
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Originally posted by Blackmore:A legally armed American would have the same chance as the deputies against a machete wielding assailant unlike victims of knife/machete attacks in the UK.
True, but also true in every other country in Europe apart from Czech Republic, Poland, Latvia, Austria and Estonia.
Why single out the UK again? Can't you spell any of the other thirty-nine countries in Europe where there is no right to carry a gun for self-defence?
And BTW, there are around 3500 CCW permits, with free pistols to go with them, on issue to citizens of Northern Ireland, part of the UK. This is a legacy of the recent Troubles. Qualifying people are certain police officers, members of the judiciary, certain members of the legal profession and members of the reserve Armed forces - all of whom have real threats against their lives from continuing terrorism activity.