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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Hey, you asked why a judge in Utah was ruling on the matter at all. As for the representatives, I'm sure they'll find a way to appeal the ruling. | |||
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They're non-citizen United States Nationals. Pretty much the only ones. All U.S. citizens are nationals. Not all nationals are citizens. Non-USC nationals can't vote, but that's about the only distinction. Passports are the same. When the Philippines were a U.S. possession, the same applies to Filipinos residing here. My grandfather had to petition for naturalization after living in the States for a while, for no other reason than wanting to be a "real" American, vote and all. Judge can rule, but he's ruling contrary to 120 years of established statutory and case law | |||
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If they pay taxes they're citizens. Nuff said. | |||
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The tax issue is probably why the Samoan rep is arguing against automatic citizenship. If Samoans are automatically citizens, they are required to pay U.S. income taxes no matter where in the world they live, even outside U.S. territory. Currently I believe they aren’t required to pay income tax when living abroad. The Samoan way of life is to get American aid when at home, but have taxes be optional when abroad. This ruling would end that. No wonder the Samoan delegation opposes it. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
The judge put his ruling on hold. Judge puts citizenship ruling for American Samoans on hold SALT LAKE CITY — The window for American Samoans in Utah to be considered U.S. citizens closed quickly after a federal judge put his own ruling on hold Friday. U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups ruled Thursday that people born in American Samoa are U.S. citizens under the 14th Amendment. His decision came in a lawsuit three Utahns filed against the government last year seeking to be treated as American citizens. Waddoups stayed his ruling pending resolution of the issue on appeal, according to court documents. People born in American Samoa, a U.S. territory, are labeled U.S. nationals. Under that status, they cannot vote, run for office, sponsor family members for immigration to the U.S., apply for certain government jobs or serve on a jury — despite paying U.S. taxes. Neil Weare, an attorney with Equally American who represents John Fitisemanu, Pale Tuli and Rosavita Tuli in the case, urged Samoan Americans in the state to register to vote as soon as they could after the judge’s decision. The organization based in Washington, D.C., advocates for the civil rights in U.S. territories. Fitisemanu registered to vote Friday morning, but he’ll now have to wait until the case is resolved before he can vote, Weare said. “We’re hoping that the appeals process moves forward quickly so he’ll be able to vote in the upcoming primary and general election,” he said on KSL NewsRadio’s “Live Mic with Lee Lonsberry.” Susi Tafaele, co-founder of the Southern Utah Pacific Islander Coalition, said the time frame was so short that she doesn’t know how many people were able to register to vote. The group is a plaintiff in the case. Still, it was a “really landmark” decision, she said. The U.S. government contends that only Congress, not the federal courts, can grant citizenship to residents of U.S. territories. Congress over the years has allowed those born in Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands and the Northern Mariana Islands to claim citizenship by birth. American Samoa is the only territory not granted birthright citizenship. The American Samoan government also argued against granting its residents U.S. citizenship and intends to appeal Waddoups’ decision. “Because the residents of American Samoa have vibrant democratic processes and already had a path to citizenship that I had worked to make even more accessible, the ruling is particularly unwelcome and inappropriate,” Aumua Amata, the American Samoa delegate to the U.S. House, said in a statement Friday. Amata said American Samoa is committed to the preservation of “Fa’a Samoa” or “the Samaon way of life” and is working to make sure that a path to individual citizenship is available and accessible to all American Samoans who choose to pursue it. https://www.ksl.com/article/46...ican-samoans-on-hold Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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