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Dan, again not worth the effort:

Non-Residents

It is unlawful for any person to carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state unless he has a valid New York license.

Possession - Handguns

A license is needed to possess a handgun. The application is made to the licensing officer of the city or county where the applicant resides, is principally employed, or where his principal place of business as a merchant or storekeeper is located. An alien may obtain a pistol license if he or she meets these requirements. NY Penal Law § 400(3).

The determination whether to grant the license is completely within the discretion of the licensing officer. However, the licensing officer must state specifically and concisely in writing the reasons for a denial. NY Penal Law § 400.00(4-a). A denial can only be overturned in court if it is shown to be arbitrary and capricious.

A license may be granted to an applicant who:

is of good moral character,
is over 21 years of age (the age requirement does not apply to persons honorably discharged from the military),
has not been convicted of a felony or “serious offense” and is not a fugitive from justice,
is not an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance,
is not an illegal alien, or an alien admitted under a nonimmigrant visa (unless the exceptions in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2) apply), or a U.S. citizen that has renounced his or her citizenship,
has not been discharged from the military under dishonorable conditions,
discloses if and when he or she has ever been treated for mental illness, and has not been involuntarily committed to a mental health facility or had a guardian appointed because he or she lacked mental capacity,
has not had a license revoked, and is not under a suspension or ineligibility order as part of a protective order,

and for whom no good cause otherwise exists for the denial of the license. NY Penal Law § 400.00(1).

Westchester County may require the applicant to successfully complete a firearms safety course and test in addition to meeting the other requirements. Other counties may also require a safety course for license issuance.

The applicant must also provide fingerprints, and photographs taken within thirty days of the date the application is filed. The police investigate all statements made in response to the requirements in the application. One copy of the fingerprints will be forwarded to the FBI for a search of the applicant’s criminal records.

The license fee is fixed by the board of supervisors in each county. The Division of Criminal Justice Services sets the fingerprinting fee. A fee is charged fee for each amendment to the license. In New York City and Nassau County, the City Council and Board of Supervisors, respectively, set the license fees without regard to the state law limitation.

Generally, an application for a license must be acted upon within six months after it is filed but the applicant may be given written notice of a delay. This delay is limited to “good cause” only, and the written notice must specifically state the reason(s) for the delay. NY Penal Law § 400.00(4-a).

The licensing officer may, in his discretion, add restrictions to the license, limiting the places where the handgun may be kept or carried provided there is a rational basis for this and the decision is not arbitrary or capricious.

If issued, an “on premises only” license authorizes the possession of a handgun only at the location written on the license. NY Penal Law § 400.00(7). It does not authorize the holder to take such handgun to any other place. (It should be noted further that an “on premises only” license technically does not authorize the holder even to transport the handgun from its place of purchase to the location stated on the license.)

A license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, not otherwise limited as to place or time of possession, is effective throughout the state except within New York City, unless a special permit granting validity is issued by the NYC police commissioner. NY Penal Law § 400.00(6).

Each handgun possessed must be listed on the license by make, model, caliber and serial number. NY Penal Law § 400.00(7). The only exception is possession of a properly licensed handgun by another licensee or license applicant at a target range; see NY Penal Law § 265.20(7-a). A person may apply to amend the license to change the weapons held under that license.

The NY SAFE Act amended New York law to require that all pistol permits be “recertified” every five years starting January 2014. Failure to recertify operates as a revocation of the license. NY Penal Law § 400.00(10)(b).

Under the NY SAFE Act, if a licensee at any time becomes ineligible to obtain or hold a license, the license is deemed revoked and, under NY Penal Law § 400.00(11)(c), the licensee is required to surrender (1) his or her license, and (2) his or her firearms, not just the licensed firearm(s), to law enforcement. In the event such license or firearm(s) are not surrendered, “such items shall be removed and declared a nuisance and any police officer or peace officer acting pursuant to his or her special duties is authorized to remove any and all such weapons.”

The NY SAFE Act amended state law regarding the name and address submitted by an applicant to obtain the license. Generally, this information becomes a matter of public record. However, applications for licenses must now include an opt-out form, in which an applicant may request an exception from his or her application information becoming a public record, and to specify the reason from those listed (for example, that the applicant's life or safety may be endangered by disclosure for the listed reason or the applicant has reason to believe he or she may be subject to unwarranted harassment upon disclosure). NY Penal Law § 400.00(5). The licensing officer is to grant such exceptions unless the request is knowingly based on false information. An applicant may file an opt-out form anytime, but after May 15, 2013, if no opt-out form has been filed, the applicant’s information may be subject to release under access to information laws. See the NYS Division of State Police website for the form and additional information: https://troopers.ny.gov/Firear...ic_Records_Exemption.

A licensee who changes his or her residence to another licensing jurisdiction within the state shall provide notification of the address change in writing within ten days after the change occurs, and a record of such change shall be inscribed by such licensee on the reverse side of the license.

Although 21 is generally the minimum age for licensees (see NY Penal Law § 400.00(1)), NY Penal Law § 265.20(7-e) allows persons aged between 14 and 21 that meet the qualifications listed to possess and use a handgun at an indoor or outdoor pistol range, as described, or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the NRA, and while under the immediate supervision of a person designated in NY Penal Law § 265.20 (7).



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Thanks. I had a pretty good idea of what I was signing up for.
 
Posts: 2464 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: May 14, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan:
...I'll be leaving most of my firearms out of state. I don't think maintaining a residence out of state is possible in this case. The next move after NY will be to a place yet to be determined.


What about paying NY State income taxes? If your assignment is 364 days, can you pay in your home state only?

I read your post above, and the residence issue sounds complicated. You may be stuck as a tax-paying NY resident for that period, but it's worth asking around for alternatives.
 
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To summarize you can not possess a handgun without a N.Y. permit, and it would be virtually impossible to obtain one in your case. And as noted no magazines over 10 rounds. And no full featured AR’s. Bring a pump shotgun or bolt action rifle
 
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I used to spend a lot of time there doing work for GE, when GE had work there.
Don't remember much, but the brewery in Utica gave away full cases of beer when you took the tour.




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Read most of the comments; they are spot-on. I met and married a woman who lived in Liverpool and worked in Syracuse. Moved her here to Ohio to my home. I offered to take her back for a visit. She threatened divorce. She was 100% serious. It is that bad.

Good luck; hope the work is worth it.


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I can do anything for a year. The potential long-term benefits can not be ignored.
 
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That's the rub... as a non resident you could legally shoot a USPSA match for example, without a NYS pistol license. As a resident, you can't.

I've no idea what the pistol licensing sceduke is in that county, but in many places it would take you most of that year to get one.


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That's the rub... as a non resident you could legally shoot a USPSA match for example, without a NYS pistol license. As a resident, you can't.

I've no idea what the pistol licensing sceduke is in that county, but in many places it would take you most of that year to get one.

I see.
 
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Dan,

I can probably dig up some more accurate info on pistol licenses for you. I've seen residents get them in a month and some took 3-4 months. Not sure about Onondaga County. Many applications want like three references that live in the county you are applying that have known you like three years or something. Kinda tricky if you're new to the area. Like I said I can look into that.
 
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Once you get past the liberalism and the screwy gun laws, Syracuse and the surrounding area is a fun place to be. And, truthfully, once you get out into the rural areas, you'll find a whole lot of good solid conservative folks (particularly up in the northern counties). It ain't all bad, you just have to get into the "when in Rome" mindset. You're not going change anything, so just enjoy your time there.

If you're even remotely outdoorsy, there are a ton of things to do within an hour or two of Syracuse. Tons of great restaurants in the area. Lots of good golf courses. Great fishing. It is a college party town, so if you're at all into that scene, head downtown pretty much any night and have a ball.

Yes, winters do suck. More snow than you can imagine, and while the thermometer might not look so bad, it feels colder there than anywhere I've ever been. It's a cold that will go right through you. Summers can be quite humid, but fall is awesome.

NY is a beautiful state with a lot to offer. It's just a shame that communists run the place.


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Utica Club?

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Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
I used to spend a lot of time there doing work for GE, when GE had work there.
Don't remember much, but the brewery in Utica gave away full cases of beer when you took the tour.
 
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I was born and raised in Syracuse and moved to Florida when I was 25. I loved the state and was involved with most outdoor activities. Most of my family still resides there.

I will never move back because of the SAFE Act. Period.



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Utica Club?

quote:
Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
I used to spend a lot of time there doing work for GE, when GE had work there.
Don't remember much, but the brewery in Utica gave away full cases of beer when you took the tour.
 
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Originally posted by RR:
Dan,

I can probably dig up some more accurate info on pistol licenses for you. I've seen residents get them in a month and some took 3-4 months. Not sure about Onondaga County. Many applications want like three references that live in the county you are applying that have known you like three years or something. Kinda tricky if you're new to the area. Like I said I can look into that.

The references do seem to be a sticking point. Onondaga requires four who live in County. I’m going to skip over my opinion of this process, but I might give it a go as an educational opportunity.

From what I see bringing an Anschutz in isn’t an issue and requires no registration.
 
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Originally posted by RR:
Dan,

I can probably dig up some more accurate info on pistol licenses for you. I've seen residents get them in a month and some took 3-4 months. Not sure about Onondaga County. Many applications want like three references that live in the county you are applying that have known you like three years or something. Kinda tricky if you're new to the area. Like I said I can look into that.


It took me 9 in Oswego Co. and had to have my FIL's friends "swear" they knew me Roll Eyes

It's a beautiful area though and if you hunt/fish or hike the area really shines
 
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Originally posted by Ironmike57:
Utica Club?


Always liked the old Schultz and Dooley commercials. A group of us had our pictures taken on the staircase in the tasting room (this back in the mid '60s). Drank a LOT for free there.



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Can't help with firearm laws, but I can recommend a good sandwich shop.

Brooklyn Pickle.

A couple locations in the city.

Good food!

Enjoy your time!



 
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Just a couple of other questions:

1) A pistol license (for possession of a pistol) has no expiration? Meaning once you possess it further purchasing of pistols is unrestricted?

2) Is there any restriction on reloading components, either possession or purchase?

Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by Dan:
Just a couple of other questions:

1) A pistol license (for possession of a pistol) has no expiration? Meaning once you possess it further purchasing of pistols is unrestricted?

2) Is there any restriction on reloading components, either possession or purchase?

Thank you.


No expiration on the pistol license. Part of the safe act is it must be renewed every 5 years but no expiration. After you purchase each pistol you take the receipt to the Sheriff's office and get the pistol put on your license and get a "coupon" that you then take back to the dealer and use to take possession of the pistol.

No restrictions on reloading components that I'm aware of. Except maybe federal ones if you have like a silo filled with powder. I'm sure there are others on here more knowledgeable in this area. This is a little outside my wheelhouse.
 
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Dan,
I cannot address the firearms issues. You should be well acquainted with the snow you will find there. Smile

Off topic, but I saw our mutual friend/saddlemaker a few weeks ago. She follows your Facebook page.



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