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That isn't (AR 670-1), as it refers to AR 670-1 in numerous places. I was Navy, so have no idea about Army Regs, but I can't imagine the Navy, back then when things were considerably more formal, fretting about a t-shirt unobservable under one's uniform, nor something tucked in the inside of your cover. When I had my ultra super TS clearance, I was asked about contacts I had with amateur radio stations in Communist contries, USSR, Cuba, etc. OTOH, Lee Harvey Oswald was an avowed Marxist and he had a clearance in the Marines, low level as he was a PFC. This will result in some merriment at promotion boards, but not likely anything more. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Article 134 is where they would charge you with acts that are prejudicial to good order and discipline. Where they get you for errors of omission is Article 107, False Statements Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent to deceive, signs any false record, return, regulation, order, or other official document, knowing it to be false, or makes any other false official statement knowing it to be false, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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Don't piss off the medics or the cooks. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Look he is an Official Socialist Organizer. Doesn't that outrank a Community Organizers?  “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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OK, I linked an older AR 670-1, this one is dated 25 May 2017. I'm not an Army retiree, but Air Force, but the Regs (Air Force now calls theirs "Instructions") are similar. http://www.apd.army.mil/epubs/...R670-1_Web_FINAL.pdf I suggest you take up the actual wording in the Army Regs with an Army troop. All I know is that "He's Fucked". The General Article (UCMJ Article 134) will be in any adverse action on him. And as an officer, he'll have to undergo a General Court Martial, and punishment would demand dismissal. http://www.ucmj.us/sub-chapter...-134-general-article --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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If you think anything negative is going to happen to him, you have more faith in the military than I do. | |||
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I am guessing the intent was corpse man, not Corpsman.  “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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I opened the link and it is AR-670-1. Below are the general guidelines as to when you can't wear an Army uniform of any type. k. Wearing Army uniforms is prohibited in the following situations: (1) In connection with the furtherance of any political or commercial interests, or when engaged in off-duty civilian employment. (2) When participating in public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or public demonstrations, except as authorized by the first O–5 in the chain of command. (3) When attending any meeting or event that is a function of, or is sponsored by, an extremist organization. I can't begin to go into the level of minuta involved with wearing ANY uniform of the U.S. Army. The details are as seemingly endless as infinity itself, and extend into undergarments, shoe laces, and anything else you can think of. I used to carry copies of the relevant sections with me so I could defend myself against any officer or NCO attempting to make an on the spot correction to my attire. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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So, (hopefully) someone will "frag the lieutenant" ?  | |||
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No discharge for this one. We've got him for at least the next five or six years. If not in the brink for that time we can surely make his life hell with legitimate legal orders. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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I don't think it is against any regulation to be a member of a political organization. There are limits to one's partisan political activity. Article 133 doesn't seem to apply. Article 134 may not, either. According to Wikipedia, "The UCMJ requires that all acts be directly prejudicial to good order and discipline. Examples of misconduct prosecuted under the act includes a Chief Petty Officer "cross dressing in public view", a Sergeant who mooned another servicemember's wife and a seaman making unauthorised long distance calls. Examples of conduct listed in the Manual for Courts-Martial include adultery, bribery, fraternization, gambling, straggling, and indecent language." Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Army Opens Investigation Into West Point Grad For Promoting Communism The U.S. Army has opened an investigation into West Point graduate Second Lieutenant Spenser Rapone for appearing to openly advocate for communism on social media. Pictures of Rapone in uniform at West Point promoting pro-communism messages spread wildly around the internet Monday, in effect forcing West Point to issue a statement in response. The statement noted the Army has launched an investigation into Rapone’s activities. “The U.S. Military Academy strives to develop leaders who internalize the academy’s motto of Duty, Honor, Country, and who live the Army values,” West Point said in a statement released Tuesday. “Second Lieutenant Rapone’s actions in no way reflect the values of the U.S. Military Academy or the U.S. Army. As figures of public trust, members of the military must exhibit exemplary conduct, and are prohibited from engaging in certain expressions of political speech in uniform. Second Lieutenant Rapone’s chain of command is aware of his actions and is looking into the matter. The academy is prepared to assist the officer’s chain of command as required.” In one picture, Rapone appears to have placed a paper sign in his hat saying: “Communism will win.” In the other photo, Rapone is wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt underneath his uniform. At a time when active-duty service members and veterans are being dragged into the recent controversy of the National Football League flag and anthem protests, the pictures immediately went viral. Rapone seemed to post the second picture in an effort to verify that he did in fact own the Twitter account. His bio describes himself as a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. His Twitter account is full of interesting opinions regarding his views on politics and West Point, the institution from which he graduated. Rapone has complained that the military as such “reifies capitalism/imperialism with a brutally hierarchical rank structure” and said that his fellow service members “lust for war and conflict. They fetishize violence.” In June 2016, Rapone said that because “Fascists dehumanize political opponents…Violence against the far right is resistance, not aggression.” In a tweet from July 2016, Rapone stated: “With that speech, Trump confirms the worst suspicion: he is a fascist.” In October 2016, Rapone said that the “The GOP exists as violence against black/brown people, Muslims, LGBTQ community, yet milquetoast liberals actively donate money to it?” Follow Jonah Bennett on Twitter Send tips to jonah@dailycallernewsfoundation.org Army Opens Investigation Into West Point Grad For Promoting Communism 'veritas non verba magistri' | |||
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It wouldn't seem that wearing a t-shirt beneath your uniform that cannot be observed while at the West Point commencement fits in those definitions, nor the insertion in one's hat. It is a profoundly silly thing to do, but maybe not violative of any regs. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Membership in a political organization could become an issue if they have stated goals that are not compatible with good order and discipline. It's sometimes a fine line but all the Army needs is one sentence in a set of bylaws and you're hoist on your own petard. The second issue is going to revolve around how popular the LT is with his COC. If he's proselytizing like a born again on fire, during duty hours, it's a big no-no. A while back an 0-5 or 0-6 got into a little hot water for 'requiring' his troops to attend off duty christian events. I've had my own run in with this type of behavior, and it's sometimes difficult to avoid depending on how rank heavy the invitation is. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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I don't think it's real. Hair is too long for West Point. | |||
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You would be wrong. It's real, with multiple links confirming it throughout the thread, including confirmation and a statement from West Point. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Both actions are in direct violations of AR-670-1, but you are correct in that nothing will come of either violation. As an MP I've written uniform violations at the request of unit commanders for things just as petty. It's used to establish a paper trail for future disciplinary actions. _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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I've been analyzing the uniform "deviations" shown in the first photos. Active partizan political activity is discouraged, although mere membership likely isn't prohibited, AFAIK. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Now that the Army has opened an investigation and this has gone viral/is on the radar screen, it will be taken care of. My guess, he'll either be given a letter of reprimand, be switched to a different unit and keep his stupid mouth shut until his service obligation is up. Or (if he's as dumb as he's acting) be in for a rougher ride. If his clearance gets pulled that's it, no more officer. I can empathize with his commander. Butter bar so new, the BC likely has no idea about this clown until now and it is yet another massive distraction from training he has to deal with. Military leadership sure feels like babysitting some times. A civilian employer wouldn't have to do anything so long as he showed up and did his job. Waste of what could have been a good mustang.  “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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It's just a joke, comes to mind anytime someone has longer than "normal" hair in uniform. I actually told my barber (a Navy vet) to give me "the Corpsman" the last time I got my hair cut, he thought it was funny. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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