Ortho Home Defense has staying power, if not washed away. I have some here.

I try to only kill what needs killing. If they stay outside, no biggie, depending what it is.

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
I have used Talstar Pro with great success. It's active ingredient is Bifenthrin. It is a Pyrethroid pesticide like the active ingredient in Onslaught (esfenvalerate).

Although both synthetic pyrethroid pesticides, the active in Onslaught is much "hotter" than bifenthrin. Much more repellency. I've owned a pest control business for 30 years and bifenthrin is one of the least effective sprays I have ever used. If you can get your hands on Transport Mikron (same manufacture as Talstar), you will have an excellent all purpose insecticide.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
You have to be careful with this. Several years ago a man had a pest control business with no training. People relied on him because the pests never returned. He was using pesticides at extreme doses and pesticides for crops. Lots of lawsuits and some very sick people.

Probably malathion. Bad stuff and absolutely not for indoor use.

Beancooker is not wrong about Exciter. Great knockdown pyrethrin (outdoor use only as it stinks). You can also add a sticker agent like Nufilm which will increase how long it lasts as well as its effectiveness.

we have Orkin

monthly treatments for $45 alternating inside and outside. the palmetto bugs come in through the drains still but die about immediately

I just had them redo the termite trench around the house since formosa's are vicious and will eat your house quick like and you won't even know there are there until its too late. that was about $4k

Home defense here. Works good. easy pease. But we don't have huge bug issues though.

Yeah,you guys should listen to Dave. He knows what he's talking about.

Are those of you who do your own pest treatment concerned about your pets being exposed to these chemicals?

Dave, would you treat a home with pets any differently than one without pets?

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Originally posted by dave7378:

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
I have used Talstar Pro with great success. It's active ingredient is Bifenthrin. It is a Pyrethroid pesticide like the active ingredient in Onslaught (esfenvalerate).

Although both synthetic pyrethroid pesticides, the active in Onslaught is much "hotter" than bifenthrin. Much more repellency. I've owned a pest control business for 30 years and bifenthrin is one of the least effective sprays I have ever used. If you can get your hands on Transport Mikron (same manufacture as Talstar), you will have an excellent all purpose insecticide.

I use Transport, have for several years, and you need to use a separate sprayer that you put nothing else into because it is odorless, so the insects don't detect it. Works very well..

I've done business with DIY pest control for several years and highly recommend them. Here is a link for Onslaught, aka The Good Stuff.

https://diypestcontrol.com/ons...psulated-insecticide

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yeah,you guys should listen to Dave. He knows what he's talking about.

Are those of you who do your own pest treatment concerned about your pets being exposed to these chemicals?

Dave, would you treat a home with pets any differently than one without pets?

We make sure that the pets are out of the house during the treatment and don't return until the application is dry. Synthetic pyrethroid pesticides are classified as mildly toxic and are generally safe for use around pets. Cats tend to be a little more susceptible but as long as label instructions are followed and common sense is applied there is little risk.

There are two types of pesticide exposure, acute and chronic. Acute being a one time exposure, chronic being a long time exposure. With today's pesticides, like in NYS, there is very little risk with an acute exposure. Synthetic Pyrethroid pesticides are out of your system in 24 hours People who work with pesticides every day , chronic exposure, have to be a little more careful. I've been doing this for over 30 years and and have never had a problem for myself or any of my employees.

Just follow the label recommendations and protect your skin as most exposures are dermal.

Very interesting discussion

I have purchased a property with an old barn that has pinholes in some of the wood structure

Some type of wood boring insect
Nothing obvious is crawling around

Would Transport Mikron or Onslaught work if I spray the beams

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Originally posted by RC:
Very interesting discussion

I have purchased a property with an old barn that has pinholes in some of the wood structure

Some type of wood boring insect
Nothing obvious is crawling around

Would Transport Mikron or Onslaught work if I spray the beams

Probably not. Sounds like powder post beetle or some other type of wood worm. A product like Boracare is more suited for that problem. Problem being you need a product that is going to soak deep into the wood, not just dry on the surface. If you send me pictures of the exit holes and/or damage I can be more definitive

Whatever you do , avoid those places that advertise the do it your self professional products . Their markup is huge over what you can buy it for online . As much as 100 % for some products .

Thanks Dave

I’ll get over there in the next couple of days and send over a picture

If I just had to worry about spraying the perimeter of my home I'd DIY.

Wasps are the primary reason I have a service. This is what they do on their every other month visits:

We have red wasps here and the industrious bastards build nests quickly. My service has long handled insect mops they go along all of the eaves knocking down nests and applying D-fense Dust.

about every 8 months they'll go in my attic an apply some dust to the exclusion wire mesh so wasps don't build nests in it.

They also broadcast spread Niban and BifenthrinPL about a 25' perimeter around the home for fire ants.

for the perimeter spray one visit they use Bifen I/T and the next service they use Cyzmic.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yeah,you guys should listen to Dave. He knows what he's talking about.

Yep

Dave jumped right in and helped direct me to the correct product to use for my problem

Thanks MikeGLI for starting the post

Thanks Dave for the suggestion to solve my problem

I've owned my home here in Lower Alabama for the past 19yrs and done my own pest control.

A pump sprayer and Cyonara 9.7 Insecticide from diypestcontrol.com are all I've used for pest control.

Over the years I've had four little field mice in this cottage built in 1945 with a crawl space. Got 'em with old school mouse traps. Used a small ball of bread dough and a drop of honey.

I do have a termite bond with Terminix but only because of a mortgage requirement and that's all I use them for. They only ever inspected and found no termites. They never sprayed or anything but did put down termite bait stations about 3yrs ago.

All the great pest control success I've had, I attribute to Cyonara and highly recommend it. I use it indoors and outdoors. It has great residual properties. Gets rid of ant beds with one application.

I think I'm going to try some of the recommendations here instead of spending $600/ year...

Earlier this spring I uncovered my Porsche and discovered a small pile of nuts under the front trunk. I about flipped out! I called the pest guy and he came the next day and put a couple of additional bait traps down. He also put down some glue traps around each garage door and wouldn't you know it I ended up getting three of this little rodents, but I also ended up getting a bunch of juvenile snakes!
Don't need any critters in my garage!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Are those of you who do your own pest treatment concerned about your pets being exposed to these chemicals?

Absolutely. And Cyonara 9.7 Insecticide is said to be safe for pets after it dries. Not sure if that makes sense or not. Why safe dry but not wet? But that's what it says.

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Originally posted by Hobbs:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Are those of you who do your own pest treatment concerned about your pets being exposed to these chemicals?

Absolutely. And Cyonara 9.7 Insecticide is said to be safe for pets after it dries. Not sure if that makes sense or not. Why safe dry but not wet? But that's what it says.

Because pets are much more likely to be exposed to the active ingredient when it is wet. It is very hard for them to be exposed when it is dry. Also. once the emulsifiers evaporate (emulsifiers are what allow the active ingredient to sit in suspension with water) the pesticide cannot be re-wet.

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Originally posted by dave7378:

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Originally posted by Hobbs:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Are those of you who do your own pest treatment concerned about your pets being exposed to these chemicals?

Absolutely. And Cyonara 9.7 Insecticide is said to be safe for pets after it dries. Not sure if that makes sense or not. Why safe dry but not wet? But that's what it says.

Because pets are much more likely to be exposed to the active ingredient when it is wet. It is very hard for them to be exposed when it is dry. Also. once the emulsifiers evaporate (emulsifiers are what allow the active ingredient to sit in suspension with water) the pesticide cannot be re-wet.

Thank you for the explanation Dave !!! Thank you