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Originally posted by wrightd:
Is there any objective/scientific/historical material regarding the safety of neck knife carry ? Is the pointy end of a knife pointing at your jugular vein a safety issue ? Can one fall a certain way and the knife end up stuck in your throat accidentally ? I'm sure it's OK, but I'd rather read about it to understand HOW it's ok to carry like that.

I'd not be worried about impalement as much as choking. I suggest anything hung around your neck have the proverbial "weak link" so that it does not become a choking hazard. That nifty 550 cord can become a garrote too easily, whether through accidental entanglement, or if you are grappling and need that knife - the miscreant could grab on and you are done.

FD, in the post right above this one, summed up exactly my fears in carrying a "neck knife." I think it far more likely to end up in a physical confrontation before knives or guns are even considered, let alone deployed, and having that nice piece of paracord around my neck seems to be an invitation for the other participant to grab it and pull or twist and-well it just doesn't seem to be something I want to chance.

I don't carry a knife on my ankle, either, as I am older and pretty stiff and getting to it would be very slow for me whether I needed it for self defense or just to cut a piece of line. 10 o'clock behind the belt seems to be best for me.

If I was a little more limber, perhaps the ankle, but I'm just not.

Bob

My big need for knife coverage at the moment (given the state laws) is for a small fixed blade that could be slipped into a hip pocket when going to the door. I'm considering the Cold Steel SRK-C; in the meantime I have a Helle puuko style blade bought as a keepsake 20 years ago that's been pressed into service for that need. Two smaller folders (one's a Cold Steel Grik) should arrive tomorrow.

https://www.knifecenter.com/it...dle-secure-ex-sheath

For years, I carried an Applegate Fairbairn knife, it’s balance was incomparable in a production knife. As a fighting instrument, it is a graceful and lively blade.

Seems to be somewhat comparable in size to the Cold Steel. The Falknivens you own don’t suffice?

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Originally posted by BillyBonesNY:
For years, I carried an Applegate Fairbairn knife, it’s balance was incomparable in a production knife. As a fighting instrument, it is a graceful and lively blade.

Seems to be somewhat comparable in size to the Cold Steel. The Falknivens you own don’t suffice?

Some are too difficult to open one-handed (folders), Ka-bars and others are a little large. The Grik arrived today, I may have gotten one made first thing on a Monday morning after a holiday weekend celebration with drinking involved. Sheath for the Helle is very sticky, may silicone it; I love that little knife, it's about the right size but .5" more blade wouldn't hurt.

I would respectfully suggest that anyone considering a fixed blade knife consider the ability for that knife to be used to help you exit a room (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-squeegee-handle-became-life-saving-tool-september-11-2001-180951515/), cut a seat belt (https://www.newsweek.com/missouri-man-missing-week-alive-wrecked-car-ravine-kansas-1466161), and prepare wood/strike a ferro rod (https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/spring-news/article/No-giving-up-Spring-man-stranded-in-the-woods-14133667.php). A fixed blade knife that can do these things /and/ serve as a fighting implement is a knife worth carrying always.

(For what it's worth, I have found the ESEE Izula II to be handy when the spine is filed to a 90 degree edge and the spine's coating is removed to strike a rod. I also am a fan of carrying a Victorinox Hiker with a Firefly ferro rod, just for peace of mind.)

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

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Originally posted by wrightd:
Is there any objective/scientific/historical material regarding the safety of neck knife carry ? Is the pointy end of a knife pointing at your jugular vein a safety issue ? Can one fall a certain way and the knife end up stuck in your throat accidentally ? I'm sure it's OK, but I'd rather read about it to understand HOW it's ok to carry like that.

I'd not be worried about impalement as much as choking. I suggest anything hung around your neck have the proverbial "weak link" so that it does not become a choking hazard. That nifty 550 cord can become a garrote too easily, whether through accidental entanglement, or if you are grappling and need that knife - the miscreant could grab on and you are done.

Very much this. Don't make an attacker's job easier. No ties that aren't clip on, no non-breakaway stuff.

I don't wear ties anymore, anyway.

Metal bead neckchains, like for dogtags are what I see the most of.

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Originally posted by ChuckFinley:
Metal bead neckchains, like for dogtags are what I see the most of.

Yeah, every neck knife I own came with one of those types of chains.

Reading this thread has been costly. I just ordered a SOG Kiku 4.1 inch fixed blade. That should do nicely as well as my other choices.

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Originally posted by Legal Beagle:

(For what it's worth, I have found the ESEE Izula II to be handy when the spine is filed to a 90 degree edge and the spine's coating is removed to strike a rod. I also am a fan of carrying a Victorinox Hiker with a Firefly ferro rod, just for peace of mind.)

This thread has got me seriously considering picking up an Izula.

Good thread. The fixed blade I received as part of a very generous karma offering here last year is now in my backpack. Generally speaking locations I work make concealed carry difficult without running risk of termination. Yeah, shitty gig, I know, but it's only part of the day!

How about getting a smaller Victorinox? Super cheap, disposable, easy to carry, will not elicit a "hey look he has a knife!" reaction? It can be used to cut apples, pears, open envelopes, slice grapes, slash beef, and other activities. Looks better in court - ie you weren't planning to have to use a knife, you just had to use what you had on you.



$25 https://www.etsy.com/listing/5...ds?ref=hp_rv-1&frs=1

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"hey look he has a knife!"

Nick, give him your wallet.

What for?

He's got a knife.

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Originally posted by 9mm_shooter:
How about getting a smaller Victorinox? Super cheap, disposable, easy to carry, will not elicit a "hey look he has a knife!" reaction? It can be used to cut apples, pears, open envelopes, slice grapes, slash beef, and other activities. Looks better in court - ie you weren't planning to have to use a knife, you just had to use what you had on you.



$25 https://www.etsy.com/listing/5...ds?ref=hp_rv-1&frs=1

Not as inexpensive by a long shot but along the same thinking is this Case Desk Knife. Maybe you can't have a knife in the office but how about a letter opener? My Case Desk knife is natural smooth bone riveted handled. There are a variety of handle materials available. The steel is a full tang 154CM mirror polished 3" Wharncliffe blade, this one shaving sharp. 6 1/8" overall. The fitted palomino leather sheath (this one slightly darkened by leather treatment) lays flat on the desk. No loop on the back or slots or anything. It's a desk knife. Checking the mail and opening packages is fun again. Just a great little office utility knife. My only "complaint" is I wish the handle was a little thicker. With both (flat) scales and the full tang, the handle is only about 5/16" thick.



EDIT to add side view. Same sheath different lighting and lighting angle ...

I haven't read the entire thread yet. But the Glock Field Knife fits your criteria.


Inexpensive. Tough as nails. Takes a good edge too for a blade this thick.

When I carried a neck knife and my dog tags when in the military I used the bead necklace inside an outer paracord sheath. I cut the paracord every 3-4" to provide break points for the chain.

Thanks Para, Just pulled the trigger on the Cold Steel blade you mentioned.... and put two more fixed blades on my wish list.

well, this thread has inspired me to name this new fixed blade model the Riot Act. now to decide what type of finish and handle for this little meanie. it is AEB-L stainless with 60 Rc hardness with Cryo treatment. it should be a tough little pocket monster.

dozer

I like that blade profile. ^