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Originally posted by mark_a:
Well, what I read was they didn't want a scene in their chapel. Maybe I'm missing something.

Did they ask him to refrain from speaking about any particular topic in the library?

Again, maybe I'm just not reading correctly but it seems they are worried about their students and others creating a scene in the chapel.

If you remove the filter of looking for outrage from everything that happens your blood pressure will be much lower.

But, that's just me.

Oh good. I'm not the only one who read the article. Based on the thread title, I don't believe even the OP read the article.

The gentleman hasn't been barred from speaking at the school. The school changed where he'd be speaking from the school chapel to the school library.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Micropterus:

Indeed, we have. American "Christians" have by and large created a false god, one like themselves.
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I hate to break it to you, but such idolatry is not limited to ‘American Christians’; you’re describing the basic tendency of mankind, however self-described.

I love Babylon Bee. But I find it funny when someone makes a reference to the site in order to validate his own position. If you read Babylon Bee long enough, you’ll notice that no group is spared from the satire. The founder’s basic, implied theology is that we’re all self-righteous idiots. And his theology squares well with scripture.

Romans 1:22-23
Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

I was replying to the particular post I quoted. Nevertheless, you're right. Most people as a whole have built a God in their minds that is unlike He who revealed himself in scripture. But I've found it much easier to talk about the gospel with people who make no pretense about being Christian than those that do. Many people that purport to be atheists, agnostic, and other religions, I have found, seem to be far more receptive to the gospel than those that call themselves Christian but openly hold views in opposition. It's easier to evangelize to an admitted non-Christian militant lesbian than it is a person in a mainline denomination who defends clearly unbibical lifestyles as holy.

The university is using a "Chapel is a sacred place" excuse in a way that Dillon really had no choice but to not show up.

Having been around Christian universities for quite a few years, the weekly chapel gatherings have always been a venue for many schools to have speakers talk about everything from "dealing with relationship violence" to abortion to homosexuality/same-sex attraction, premarital sex, etc.

I'll bet they've had past chapel speakers that have presented on topics that quite a few students didn't support but never did a passive-aggressive BS ban as in this case

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Dillon explained that “Bishop would not explicitly tell me what I'd said or done that made my presence in the chapel suddenly inappropriate. I told her that if I'm not welcome in their chapel, then I don't feel welcome on their campus.”

The topic of Christian schools admitting non-believers is very controversial because the schools always claimed it was about evangelizing non-believing students but in reality it was to increase enrollment - $$ and all the schools that I've seen do this went from having a solid foundation of Biblical principles that they ran on to very wishy-washy secular school and almost all non-believing students ended up as non-believing graduates.

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Oh good. I'm not the only one who read the article. Based on the thread title, I don't believe even the OP read the article.

The gentleman hasn't been barred from speaking at the school. The school changed where he'd be speaking from the school chapel to the school library.

From the Article

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Dillon explained that “Bishop would not explicitly tell me what I'd said or done that made my presence in the chapel suddenly inappropriate. I told her that if I'm not welcome in their chapel, then I don't feel welcome on their campus.”

Perhaps YOU should read the article.

Or this thread here
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/3740054374/p/4

Oh...I see you're aware of it

Tsk, tsk, the satirist has done satire! Well, it's not like he drew a picture of Allah or something.

If his speech was not related to spiritual matters, I see no harm in changing his venue from the chapel. But I do object stongly to kowtowing to sniveling butthurt social media rangers. He's a prominent alumni, for crying out loud.

Love the "Bee"!

No college wants to become ground zero for the next BLM / Antifa shit show.

They do not support the BLM or ANTIFA, but they cant afford to risk their campus being burned to the ground. Do you think the community is going to come and help out? the last thing admin wants is college kids and these paid thugs at war on the campus lawn.

We are just one stupid comment by a professor in class away from 40 BLM busses rolling up and uhauls full of "my first riot and mayhem kits" being distributed to burn this shit down.

So yeah, we have all been told to shut up. In my classroom I tell my students when it comes up, "there are two types of people: those who know Jesus and those who do not" "But what about . . . (insert issue here) ."
"there are two types of people . . ."

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Originally posted by thunderson:


From the Article

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Dillon explained that “Bishop would not explicitly tell me what I'd said or done that made my presence in the chapel suddenly inappropriate. I told her that if I'm not welcome in their chapel, then I don't feel welcome on their campus.”

Perhaps YOU should read the article.

Or this thread here
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/3740054374/p/4

Oh...I see you're aware of it

Not only did I read it, I comprehended it as well, how about YOU?

It still doesn't say "Babylon Bee CEO barred from speaking at his Christian alma mater because he called BLM a terrorist org." nor does your quote from the article. In fact, the article specifically says the CEO is free to speak on campus at the library.

From the article:
"Instead, the university asked him to speak in the school’s library."

That's the opposite of being barred from speaking at the school.

Comprehended it quite well. Comprehended the fact that a man who spent hours of his life in that same chapel, not to mention contributed $300,000 to said school, was told he would no longer be speaking at the chapel about starting a Christian business, and relegated to the library. I also read that the gentleman considered being disinvited from speaking at the chapel the same as being disinvited from the school itself. A fact you have conveniently ignored in your quest to be pedantic about the thread title.

Oh, and I actually read the original article, the title of which is "EXCLUSIVE: Babylon Bee CEO's Christian alma mater disinvites him from speaking in chapel.

Perhaps the OP could edit the title to add the single word "chapel". That way you can get past it, stop accusing forum members of not reading the article, and focus on the actual issues involved.

What exactly is a “Christian business”?

From the article:

"The list of questions focused on his experience as an alumnus and a Christian media entrepreneur."

I guess one could go to Palm Beach Atlantic University's chapel and see how Mr. Dillon defines it...oh wait. No,one can't.

Bet they will continue asking for a yearly donation though.

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Originally posted by thunderson:

Perhaps the OP could edit the title to add the single word "chapel". That way you can get past it, stop accusing forum members of not reading the article, and focus on the actual issues involved.

Yes, an accurate thread title would be most helpful as would people reading the thread before posting which seems to have happened in several posts where members have repeated that falsehood.

I don't see a lot to get upset in a story about a professional provocateur's feigning of outrage over a change in speaking venue.