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http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-trump-messages.html Justice Department officials are reading through “ over 10,000 texts ” between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Fox News has learned, after it emerged Strzok was removed from Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe following the discovery of anti-Trump messages between them. Department of Justice officials told Fox News they are in the process of going through the texts so they can hand them over to the House Intelligence Committee. Strzok, who was an FBI counterintelligence agent, had worked on the Mueller probe, but was reassigned to the FBI’s human resources division after the discovery of anti-Trump text messages with Page, with whom he was having an affair. Page was briefly on Mueller’s team, but since has returned to the FBI. It’s unclear whether a significant number of the 10,000 texts have anything to do with Trump or the probe itself. Justice Department officials say the process of reading and redacting the texts could take “weeks,” and that the thousands of text messages between Strzok and Page span over “several months.” The review process comes as the committee also threatens to move forward with a contempt resolution against top DOJ and FBI officials barring an imminent breakthrough — after the agencies did not comply with a deadline to hand over long-sought information that goes well beyond text messages. Strzok is a focus of their efforts. House investigators have long regarded him as a key figure in the chain of events when the bureau, in 2016, received the infamous anti-Trump "dossier" and launched a counterintelligence investigation into Russian meddling in the election that ultimately came to encompass FISA surveillance of a Trump campaign associate. Strzok briefed the committee on Dec. 5, 2016, sources said. But within months of that session House Intelligence Committee investigators were contacted by an informant suggesting that there was “documentary evidence” that Strzok was purportedly obstructing the House probe into the dossier. Early Saturday afternoon, after Strzok’s texts were cited in published reports by the New York Times and the Washington Post – and Fox News had followed up with inquiries about the department’s refusal to make Strzok available to House investigators – the Justice Department contacted the office of House Speaker Paul Ryan to establish a date for Strzok’s appearance before House Intelligence Committee staff, along with two other witnesses long sought by the Nunes team. | |||
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This is a double post. Also in the main President Trump thread. (seems to belong in both) video of Jim Jordan questioning FBI Dir Wray on Strzok. https://youtu.be/N7A3QViXy-8 | |||
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December 8, 2017 Rosenstein 'Satisfied' with Mueller Witch Hunt In an interview with a local D.C. TV station, Rod Rosenstein admired the monster he created, who now runs an alleged investigation into supposed Russia-Trump collusion but which quickly morphed into what amounts to a silent coup against a sitting President of the United States: The U.S. Department of Justice official who appointed special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election said he is satisfied with the special counsel’s work…. “The Office of Special Counsel, as you know, has a degree of autonomy from the Department of Justice. But there is appropriate oversight by the department. That includes budget. But it also includes certain other details of the office. It is part of the Department of Justice. And we’re accountable for it.” Rosenstein has much to be accountable for. Yes, Virginia, this is a witch hunt. Robert Mueller III was appointed special counsel after his friend, the vindictive former FBI Director James Comey, committed a federal crime by leaking a memo which was a government record to the press. Mueller has picked staff and prosecutors as if he were stocking Hillary Clinton’s Department of Justice. He has picked a bevy of Clinton donors, an attorney who worked for the Clinton Foundation, a former Watergate assistant prosecutor, and even a senior advisor to Eric Holder. Objective professionals all. Thanks to Rosenstein, Mueller is in fact colluding with Comey and Clinton moles to enact revenge on President Trump for Comey’s firing, something which even Comey said Trump was constitutionally entitled to do. There is no evidence of collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice. It is not obstruction of justice for a President to exercise his legal and constitutional authority. The facts and the lack of an actual crime will not stop Robert Mueller. Just show him the man, or woman, and he will show you the crime. As Professor Alan Dershowitz writes in the Washington Examiner: Special counsel Robert Mueller was commissioned to investigate not only crime but the entire Russian "matter." That is an ominous development that endangers the civil liberties of all Americans. Federal prosecutors generally begin by identifying specific crimes that may have been committed -- in this case, violation of federal statutes. But no one has yet identified the specific statute or statutes that constrain Mueller's investigation of the Russian matter. It is not a violation of any federal law for a campaign to have collaborated with a foreign government to help elect their candidate…. One does not have to go back to the Soviet Union and Lavrentiy Beria's infamous boast to Stalin, "Show me the man and I will show you the crime," in order to be concerned about the expansion of elastic criminal statutes. There are enough examples of abuse in our own history. From McCarthyism to the failed prosecutions of Sen. Ted Stevens, Rep. Thomas DeLay, Gov. Rick Perry and others, we have seen vague criminal statutes stretched in an effort to criminalize political differences. Indeed, now we here reports that Mueller’s investigation will range anywhere from Jared Kutchner’s finances to perhaps any unpaid parking tickets Sean Spicer may have. Rosenstein is apparently satisfied with what amount to moles from Team Clinton being involved in both the sham collusion investigation and the Comey coverup of Hillary Clinton’s crimes with the head mole being one Peter Strzok. As Byron York reports in the Washington Examiner: House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes has issued an angry demand to the FBI and Department of Justice to explain why they kept the committee in the dark over the reason Special Counsel Robert Mueller kicked a key supervising FBI agent off the Trump-Russia investigation. Stories in both the Washington Post and New York Times on Saturday reported that Peter Strzok, who played a key role in the original FBI investigation into the Trump-Russia matter, and then a key role in Mueller's investigation, and who earlier had played an equally critical role in the FBI's Hillary Clinton email investigation, was reassigned out of the Mueller office because of anti-Trump texts he exchanged with a top FBI lawyer, Lisa Page, with whom Strzok was having an extramarital affair. Strzok was transferred to the FBI's human resources office -- an obvious demotion -- in July. Strzok was everywhere, throwing sand into the wheels of justice at every opportunity to protect Hillary Clinton and her operatives: Strzok was one of the leaders of the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, and he participated in interviews with a number of Clinton’s top aides, including Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, as well as Clinton’s own interview with the FBI. The longtime FBI investigator also reportedly edited a draft of former FBI Director Jim Comey’s statement on the probe into Clinton’s email use, changing the phrase “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless.” Strzok was present at the FBI interview of Hillary Clinton, the one where she was not put under oath and for which no notes were taken. She was not put under oath deliberately because Comey had already decided to exonerate her in the memo Strzok altered. Can’t charge her with making false statements to the FBI if those statements are not made under oath, can you? Unlike Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were given immunity in exchange for nothing, and were not charged with making false statements to the FBI, even though they did: The Daily Caller’s Chuck Ross reports: “The FBI agent who was fired from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation team for sending anti-Donald Trump text messages conducted the interviews with two Hillary Clinton aides accused of giving false statements about what they knew of the former secretary of state’s private email server.” More from the report: “Neither of the Clinton associates, Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin, faced legal consequences for their misleading statements, which they made in interviews last year with former FBI section chief Peter Strzok.” Top Mueller deputy Andrew Weismann was caught wearing his antipathy towards Donald Trump on his sleeve when he penned a love note to then Acting Attorney General Sally Yates when she refused to carry out a lawful order from President Trump to enforce his travel ban: A top prosecutor working with special counsel Robert Mueller praised former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates at a moment in late January when she was at loggerheads with newly minted president Donald Trump. Andrew Weissman emailed Yates ten days into the Trump administration after she refused to enforce or defend an executive order banning incoming travelers to the U.S. from seven terror-prone majority Muslim countries. 'I am so proud. And in awe. Thank you so much. All my deepest respects,' Weissman wrote to her. Sally Yates was part of the so-called “resistance” to President Trump and his agenda. So too is Peter Strzok. Andrew Weisman, Robert Mueller… and Rod Rosenstein, who is proud of all this. Now we have word that a top DOJ official, one Bruce G. Orr, who was demoted for activities related to the infamous dossier which may have been used by the FBI to fraudulently obtain FISA warrants to spy on Team Trump and American citizens: A senior Justice Department official was demoted this week amid an ongoing investigation into his contacts with the opposition research firm responsible for the anti-Trump “dossier,” the department confirmed to Fox News. Until Wednesday morning, Bruce G. Ohr held two titles at DOJ: associate deputy attorney general, a post that placed him four doors down from his boss, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein; and director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF), a program described by the department as “the centerpiece of the attorney general’s drug strategy.”… Initially senior department officials could not provide the reason for Ohr’s demotion, but Fox News has learned that evidence collected by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), chaired by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., indicates that Ohr met during the 2016 campaign with Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the “dossier.”… Additionally, House investigators have determined that Ohr met shortly after the election with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS -- the opposition research firm that hired Steele to compile the dossier with funds supplied by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. By that point, according to published reports, the dossier had been in the hands of the FBI, which exists under the aegis of DOJ, for some five months, and the surveillance on Carter Page, an adviser to the Trump campaign, had started more than two months prior. Oh, what tangled webs Rosenstein and the FBI have woven! Republican lawmakers, needless to say, are not amused at all this, casting the obvious doubts on Rosenstein’s praise of Special Counsel Mueller: Several conservative lawmakers held a news conference Wednesday demanding more details of how the FBI proceeded last year in its probes of Hillary Clinton’s use of personal email and Russian election interference. This week, the conservative group Judicial Watch released an internal Justice Department email that, the group said, showed political bias against Trump by one of Mueller’s senior prosecutors… “The question really is, if Mueller was doing such a great job on investigating the Russian collusion, why could he have not found the conflict of interest within their own agency?’’ Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) asked at the news conference. Meadows, leader of the Freedom Caucus, cited a litany of other issues that he said show bias on the part of the FBI and Mueller, including past political donations by lawyers on Mueller’s team. A good question Rosenstein won’t answer. Rosenstein is satisfied with Mueller, and why shouldn’t he be? The two go back a long way and cooperated in the cover up of an FBI investigation into Russia’s use of bribes, kickbacks, and money laundering to grab U.S. uranium supplies and real collusion with Hillary Clinton, only to resurface years later to chase phantom collusion between Team Trump and Russia. Mueller and Rosenstein were both involved in the FBI investigation dating back to 2009, with current Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller up to their eyeballs in covering up evidence of Hillary’s collusion, bordering on treason, with Vladimir Putin’s Russia: Prior to the Obama administration approving the very controversial deal in 2010 giving Russia 20% of America’s Uranium, the FBI had evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were involved in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering in order to benefit Vladimir Putin, says a report by The Hill… John Solomon and Alison Spann of The Hill: Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show… From today’s report we find out that the investigation was supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, who is now President Trump’s Deputy Attorney General, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who is now the deputy FBI director under Trump. Robert Mueller was head of the FBI from Sept 2001-Sept 2013 until James Comey took over as FBI Director in 2013. They were BOTH involved in this Russian scam being that this case started in 2009 and ended in 2015. If evidence of bribery, kickbacks, extortion, and money laundering in the Uranium One affair are not grounds for a special prosecutor assigned to investigate Hillary Clinton, what is? Rosenstein and Mueller, by their silence on this investigation hidden from Congress and the American people, and using the office of special counsel and a politicized FBI to conduct a silent coup against a duly elected president are unindicted coconspirators in Hillary’s crimes and should be terminated immediately. http://www.americanthinker.com...ller_witch_hunt.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Rosenstein should have been fired months ago. He is a dirty as Mueller is in that Uranium One deal. He is just another leftist politician. And because Sessions played right into the democrats hands by stupidly and unnecessarily recuing himself Rosenstein holds all the power to continue this absolute witch hunt. | |||
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Why does our side point out the hypocrisy, the corruption, the self dealing of the other side, and what "should have been"? ... While the other side hires prosecutors and hands down indictments? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I think the answer is because "they" are not on "our side". Pardons. Start issuing them. Mueller gets an indictment, Trump hands out a pardon. Indictment, pardon, rinse and repeat. LET the left scream. That is the just sound of victory. | |||
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When are we going to fight fire with fire? If evidence of bribery, kickbacks, extortion, and money laundering in the Uranium One affair are not grounds for a special prosecutor assigned to investigate Hillary Clinton, what is? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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The left has weaponized the DOJ and the FBI into political attack tools. The Mueller investigation is not designed to get to "the bottom" of anything, it is not designed to bring "justice" to anyone, it is designed to damage and/or remove Trump, their political foe. He is fighting a corrupt DOJ, a corrupt FBI, and a corruptpt special prosecutor, and if he needs to fight them with his legal, constitutionally guaranteed right of pardons, so be it. No one else in the government seems willing to fight the dems and their corruption. People need to realize that political battles are not like football games, they are not won by the defense. They are won by the offense, and Trump himself is no clearer example. Throughout the campaign he refused to go on the defense, but instead he constantly pressed the offense. And he won big. The dems LOVE IT when republicans play defense, it's an easy victory. Until the left starts feeling the pressure of real justice (not the fake Comey kind) for all of their crimes their corruption and disdain for the law will continue unabated. | |||
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from WSJ https://www.wsj.com/articles/t...-drags-on-1512748299 "Mr. Weissmann also attended Hillary Clinton’s election-night party at the Jacob K. Javits Center in New York, according to people familiar with his attendance." | |||
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Speaking of fire with fire, if the FBI is as corrupt as some are beginning to believe, could it be that the FBI management could qualify under RICO laws? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Since "collusion" with a foreign power to assist in an election is not illegal. Further, since there is zero evidence of that (legal) activity happening...just why again do we have the special prosecutor Mueller anyway? This whole mess is insane. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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To give the dems a case for impeachment, which is a political process, not a legal one. They have been looking for Trump's "crimes" since the campaign started. They have found none because there are none. But the longer this "cloud" hangs over his head they hope people will start to think he did do something illegal, and this will help advance public support for impeachment. | |||
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Although there is much talk of Trump firing Mueller, Rosenstein and others and many political talking heads warning that he should not Trump has given no indication that he is considering meddling with the investigation at all. He just continues to call it a witch hunt which is more than accurate. Which is and has been the smart move. This entire investigation is collapsing under it's own weight. Like a snake that has started to eat itself from the tail. Impeachment is a wet dream the dems just haven't reached that moment of truth yet and perhaps they never will. Every day, week, month that goes by the Trump agenda makes itself more evident by the booming economy, steep declines in illegal alien crossings, lower unemployment, more respect from countries around the globe and Isis the jay vee team getting it's ass handed to it by the varsity squad! As all this continues to happen the more any talk of impeachment becomes more diminished and public support for it will be for the most part non existent. All this success of MAGA is expanding what I consider to already be the silent majority of the Deplorables. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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https://www.apnews.com/ce84437...m_medium=AP_Politics What a laughing stock the highest law enforcement in the land has become. How convenient. "But, according to the letter, the FBI told the department that its system for retaining text messages sent and received on bureau phones had failed to preserve communications between Strzok and Page over a five-month period between Dec. 14, 2016, and May 7, 2017. The explanation for the gap was “misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI’s collection capabilities.” | |||
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http://dailycaller.com/2018/01...ve-anti-trump-texts/ more detail The FBI “failed to preserve” five months worth of text messages exchanged between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page The disclosure was made Friday in a letter sent by the Justice Department to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC). “The Department wants to bring to your attention that the FBI’s technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page,” Stephen Boyd, the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs at the Justice Department, wrote to Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, the chairman of HSGAC He said that texts are missing for the period between Dec. 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017. Johnson expressed concern over the missing text messages, which were sent during a key period of the Russia investigation. During that time frame is when the Steele dossier was published by BuzzFeed News, when Strzok participated in a Jan. 24 interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn, and when James Comey was fired as FBI director. The end date of the missing Strzok-Page texts is also significant. That’s because May 17 is the day when Mueller was appointed to take over the FBI’s probe of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government. “The loss of records from this period is concerning,” Johnson wrote in a letter sent Saturday to FBI Director Christopher Wray. | |||
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This is the kind of corruption that makes 3rd world countries out of 1st world countries. We can be certain this was not incompetence. This was intentional. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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That treasonous agency needs to be SHUT DOWN. | |||
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That IS bad luck. The gear is furnished by the lowest bidder, and incompetence is always a plausible explanation for these appalling lapses. Maybe somebody remembers Watergate, when some idiot taped everything, then didn’t burn the tapes when the posse was circling. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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