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October 01, 2020, 08:02 PM
alptraum
Proud Boys Members???
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:
This post is a joke, right?

They are the definition of a white supremacist hate group.



Yep. McInnes is a straight up racist and one only needs to look at things he's said, and about the founding of the group. Official membership is much smaller than I think most realize, just a few hundred as of fairly recently. McInnes also helped found a media empire, he knows how to work it.
October 01, 2020, 08:04 PM
Il Cattivo
It may not even be the Proud Boys. The media's described anyone who's shown any willingness to punch an Anqueefa as being "Nazis" or "white supremacists" even before it began mentioning the Proud Boys.
October 01, 2020, 08:06 PM
Veeper
Oh I'm sorry did someone have some actual information showing that this group was derisive of ethnicities, based on their melanin content?

Or are the trolls in here just repeating op-eds from SPLC, NYT etc?




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October 01, 2020, 08:09 PM
alptraum
quote:
Originally posted by Veeper:
Oh I'm sorry did someone have some actual information showing that this group was derisive of ethnicities, based on their melanin content?

Or are the trolls in here just repeating op-eds from SPLC, NYT etc?


There's tons out there. It's pretty easy to find. As an on and off fan of VICE since it started I sort of watched his transformation over many years. He's a racist scumbag.
October 01, 2020, 08:18 PM
sooma
From their website:

"The Proud Boys are a men’s organization founded in 2016 by Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes. McInnes has described the Proud Boys as a pro-Western fraternal organization for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world; aka Western Chauvinists.

Proud Boys‘ values center on the following tenets:

Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us. We have an international reach, with members spanning the globe. If you have any questions or would like get in contact with your local chapter, feel free to contact us directly via our staff page. This, after all, the one and only Proud Boy Magazine. For Proud Boys, by Proud Boys. UHURU!

If you’re interested here are some additional articles and video clips to shed some more light on our movement. In fact, here are a few Gavin has written for this website.

We Are Not Alt-Right"

They clearly are not a white supremacist group, unless they are the worst in history for allowing in the "slightly more tanned variety".

These posts won't teach you much about the topic, but they will show you who are still members of the Empire.


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October 01, 2020, 08:19 PM
DennisM
quote:
Originally posted by Veeper:
Oh I'm sorry did someone have some actual information showing that this group was derisive of ethnicities, based on their melanin content?

Or are the trolls in here just repeating op-eds from SPLC, NYT etc?


If a few racist fucksticks who were long-term Keystone State Skinheads (later Keystone United) and did racist stuff later "affiliate" with Proud Boys, are they still racist fucksticks? Or it the racist-fuckstickedness washed off because the Proud Boys are presently my enemy's enemy?

I don't know the answer to that question. I also don't particularly care (see above.) What's your stake in the swimming pool?
October 01, 2020, 08:21 PM
bigdeal
Hmmm, in the limited number of cases where The Proud Boys have been attacked by Antifa and responded in kind, beating the hell out of them, I didn't see any racial bias in their selection of which morons to wipe the street with. They seem to offer up wholesale ass whippings to all creeds and colors wearing black clothing. So long as this group continues to push back and occasionally beat the hell out of Antifa/BLM, they can note me as a fan.


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October 01, 2020, 08:29 PM
sooma
Proud Boys originated as a push back to extreme feminism, third wave feminism. It was formed as an old time boys club, where men could be men without shame of "toxic masculinity".

That is why they are being mis-characterized and declared harmful by the establishment and academics.

Some of you needs to quit wearing skinny jeans and stop regurgitating MSM, SLPC, TYT, and the View.


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October 01, 2020, 08:30 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:
This post is a joke, right?

They are the definition of a white supremacist hate group.



Well, once again and as usual, you couldn't be more wrong.

The Proud Boys can be considered many things, but white supremacist or racist is not one of them.

And for the record, I'm not particularly a fan of their style. But they do give it back ten fold to the antifa/blm scum. In fact, Ann Coulter has said that when she has been harassed by the truly racist hate groups called antifa and blm, The Proud Boys have showed up and literally defended her.


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October 01, 2020, 08:39 PM
TAllen01
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:
This post is a joke, right?

They are the definition of a white supremacist hate group.



Well, once again and as usual, you couldn't be more wrong.

The Proud Boys can be considered many things, but white supremacist or racist is not one of them.

And for the record, I'm not particularly a fan of their style. But they do give it back ten fold to the antifa/blm scum. In fact, Ann Coulter has said that when she has been harassed by the truly racist hate groups called antifa and blm, The Proud Boys have showed up and literally defended her.


You are literally arguing that someone who says “Well, at least they’re not n------ or Puerto Ricans. At least they’re white." is not racist. Well, at least we know who failed logic class, and it is not me.
October 01, 2020, 08:40 PM
Kuisis
The president just condemned them on Fox news.
October 01, 2020, 08:41 PM
recoatlift
I’ve heard “White Supremists” thrown out so often the word it has the same effect On me as “Racist”

I just dont care, fed up.
October 01, 2020, 08:41 PM
alptraum
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:

You are literally arguing that someone who says “Well, at least they’re not n------ or Puerto Ricans. At least they’re white." is not racist. Well, at least we know who failed logic class, and it is not me.


But he said that was a joke and taken out of context when he got a lot of flack for it! Roll Eyes

One thing about McInnes is certain. He's basically a professional troll. He's excellent at manipulating the media.
October 01, 2020, 08:43 PM
TAllen01
quote:
Originally posted by Veeper:
Oh I'm sorry did someone have some actual information showing that this group was derisive of ethnicities, based on their melanin content?

Or are the trolls in here just repeating op-eds from SPLC, NYT etc?


I did. The literal direct quote from their founder.
October 01, 2020, 08:43 PM
dewhorse
quote:
Originally posted by Ke Bo Li:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1311413755633381381

in his own words


That video showed that they preach violence.....not white supremacist BS
October 01, 2020, 08:44 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:

You are literally arguing that someone who says “Well, at least they’re not n------ or Puerto Ricans. At least they’re white." is not racist. Well, at least we know who failed logic class, and it is not me.


Do you know that McInnes has absolutely no association with the group anymore and actually has distanced himself from them? No of course you don't. I've seen your sources.

We're talking about the Proud Boys; not McInnes.

And you clearly no jackshit about McInnes except the garbage in the phony media.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

October 01, 2020, 08:46 PM
TAllen01
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:

You are literally arguing that someone who says “Well, at least they’re not n------ or Puerto Ricans. At least they’re white." is not racist. Well, at least we know who failed logic class, and it is not me.


Do you know that McInnes has absolutely no association with the group anymore and actually has distanced himself from them? No of course you don't. I've seen your sources.

We're talking about the Proud Boys; not McInnes.


Um, who founded this organization?
October 01, 2020, 08:49 PM
TAllen01
quote:
In fact, Ann Coulter has said that when she has been harassed by the truly racist hate groups called antifa and blm, The Proud Boys have showed up and literally defended her.


You are citing Ann Coulter here as an example? The Ann Coulter who called our President the terrible names? And that is supposed to be reliable authority? Good call.
October 01, 2020, 08:55 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:


Um, who founded this organization?


You should probably know a bit more about a subject before interjecting yourself so emphatically in it. You clearly don't know anything about or ever listened to Gavin McInnes other than the misinformation in your sources.


~Alan

Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country

Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

October 01, 2020, 08:57 PM
TAllen01
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by TAllen01:


Um, who founded this organization?


You should probably know a bit more about a subject before interjecting yourself so emphatically in it. You clearly don't know anything about or ever listened to Gavin McInnes other than the misinformation in your sources.


The sourse I cited is himself, so I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.