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Originally posted by bigdeal:
This ridiculously asinine program had one goal and one goal only...to drive down the number of minority kids punished without any care or consideration of the consequences that would cause.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by HRK:
There would have been one more gun purchase in that month if my LGS would sell the P365 locally vs online at max price.

Take a Saturday occasionally (like I do) and enjoy a leisurely afternoon in Ormond Beach at Florida Gun Exchange. Went last weekend and returned with a haul of 5.56 and 45acp ammo.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I have heard arguments about "saving them" (young people) from a "life of crime" by breaking the cycle.


And it's mostly bullshit.

No, the program enacted in South Florida is complete and utter bullshit and all but guarantees many of these kids will never function in society. If bad behavior is not identified and punished appropriately, even the kids who might be saved will slip into the liability column.

This ridiculously asinine program had one goal and one goal only...to drive down the number of minority kids punished without any care or consideration of the consequences that would cause. This is liberal ideology in its purest form. Its also shown us just how horrifically dangerous that ideology is when all reason or rational behavior is removed from the equation.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
And the fun keeps snowballing. Now, per Newsweek, Bill Maher is accusing Hogg of bullying Laura Ingraham by calling for a boycott of her show.

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Millcreek teachers encouraged to fight shooter if options fail


Modified district response plan includes ‘flee’ when you can and ‘fight’ when you must.

Millcreek Township School District has armed teachers with small baseball bats, and maybe resolve.

Teachers aren’t expected to confront a gunman with the bats, schools Superintendent William Hall said.

“The bats are more symbolic than anything,” Hall said. “However, we do want to have one consistent tool to have at somebody’s disposal in a classroom in the event they have to fight.”

Each of the district’s approximately 500 teachers was given a 16-inch bat Monday during in-service training on how to respond to school shootings. The revised Trojan Response plan includes more options than a lockdown, Hall said.

“It’s not about just hiding and waiting,” he said. “There are options, and one of those is to fight.”

A 2008 Department of Homeland Security report on how to respond to an active shooter recommends getting away, if possible, hiding and, as a last resort, fighting.

The private Alice Institute in Medina, Ohio, teaches Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter and Evacuate skills to survive a shooting. To counter, or fight, an attack, the institute encourages potential victims to throw books, chairs and anything else at hand at a shooter that they can’t escape or hide from.

The Blue Mountain School District in Schuylkill County last month provided classrooms with buckets of river rocks to throw at a gunman.

It could work.

A 2013 FBI study of mass shootings found that in 11 school shootings, principals, teachers, staff or students successfully confronted or “disrupted” the shooter, saving lives.

Millcreek’s baseball bats remind teachers that they should fight if they have to, said Jon Cacchione, president of the Millcreek Education Association, the union representing district teachers.

“It’s to make people comfortable with the idea that they can attack and not simply go into hard lockdown and just hide, as we’d been told in our training up to this point,” Cacchione said.

Monday’s in-service training on responding to a school shooting included panel discussions with Millcreek police.

“It was a very appropriate, productive dialogue,” Hall said.

The district ordered 600 baseball bats for the training, including some that will be placed in offices and in other areas in schools. The cost was about $1,800, Hall said.

“It really was minimal for what we hope to accomplish,” he said.

The school district additionally has been securing school entrances and taking other steps to tighten building security. It’s also gauging public support for training and arming select staff in each school if that becomes legal in Pennsylvania. People responding to an online survey by the district in March overwhelmingly favored giving at least some teachers or staff guns. But the results might not accurately portray the community’s wishes. There was no way to confine the survey to Millcreek residents or to prevent anyone from “stuffing the ballot box,” or completing the survey multiple times.

Teachers generally approve measures taken or in the works to make schools safer, Cacchione said.

“The teachers’ association has been keeping a close ear to the ground regarding what’s going on,” he said. “Everything the district has presented to us in regard to what it’s looking into, planning or has made a part of district policy has been sound and provides a greater sense of security for staff.”

The only potential disagreement, Cacchione said, would be about arming teachers with weapons more lethal than bats.

“The only thing we’re not in agreement with as a group, although, certainly, individual members disagree, is the idea of giving teachers guns,” Cacchione said. “Having said that, we certainly don’t object to a greater presence of armed and certified police officers. But teachers are here to teach, not to be in the line of defense that carries weapons.”

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Each of the district’s approximately 500 teachers was given a 16-inch bat Monday during in-service training on how to respond to school shootings.

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Teachers aren’t expected to confront a gunman with the bats, schools Superintendent William Hall said.

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Each of the district’s approximately 500 teachers was given a 16-inch bat Monday during in-service training on how to respond to school shootings.

Ummm, played baseball lately?

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
I'd much rather have a full size bat, but I'll take the 16" (heck I'd take ANYTHING) that can be used as a weapon to defend myself if I don't have a firearm.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

Just as long as it's not a José Canseco bat.

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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:
Is it now minute 16?

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Originally posted by HRK:
There would have been one more gun purchase in that month if my LGS would sell the P365 locally vs online at max price.