The LGBT has become quite the Bullies...
And no I am not giving you a Bag of Dicks!
We don't call them Queers anymore but Freaks is more appropriate

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Being from Portland, OR is automatic qualification for Chapter 5, paragraph 13 discharge, no questions asked.

. Ding Ding winner Bigot of the month! MG

Cool it, please

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Originally posted by BRL:
Why is everyone lumping gays and transgender together? I'm no expert but a trans man that thinks he is a woman and prefers men, wouldn't he/she see themselves as a heterosexual woman?

In my mind they are two entirel different things. A gay person has a sexual preference for people of the same sex/gender (yes I said the G word).

A transgender is somebody with a whole different level of fucked up mental illness......

I think we all understand that, and the only reason it appears that they get "lumped together" is because they all commonly LUMP THEMSELVES TOGETHER under the "LGBT" banner.

The logical "lumping" would be "those with aberrant sexual proclivities".

I think there is the real possibility of some serious confusion here.

You're a Marine in a combat situation; ISIS is firing at you and running toward your position & the guy next to you is openly gay...
 
....then your platoon leader yells...“Shoot the cocksuckers!"
 
See the problem here?
 

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Originally posted by BRL:
Why is everyone lumping gays and transgender together? I'm no expert but a trans man that thinks he is a woman and prefers men, wouldn't he/she see themselves as a heterosexual woman?

Not exactly. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner sees himself as a woman, but claims to still prefer women. I guess he's a male lesbian?



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Originally posted by Ke Bo Li:
I don't see the big deal. What percent of the general population are we talking about? What percent of the military population are we talking about?

What percentage of mentally ill recruits is the military supposed to accept for duty? What percentage of recruits that want elective surgery are they supposed to accept, then pay for their surgery?



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There are approximately 125 medical conditions that will disqualify men and women from enlistment or commissioning. Trump added one more.

http://www.redstate.com/kirada...edible-tweet-thread/

J.R. Salzman, wounded warrior, Iraq veteran:

I served in Iraq in 2006. For the first five months I was on a 12 man firebase out in the middle of nowhere in the desert.

Everyday was Groundhog Day. Wake up and do the same patrols, the same shifts, every single day. It was so damn hot. 150° in the gun trucks.

Tracer fire would go overhead occasionally at night. IED's on the road were a daily threat. We got resupplied food every 8 days.

QRF was an hour away. After they made the minimum three gun truck rule after the guys got kidnapped, life got harder.

The stress of being out there and doing the same job every single day eats away at you. The younger guys had problems with that over time.

Any tiny little personal issue they had suddenly became a mountain. And that shit came out on that fire base. And they snapped mentally.

After stepping on each other's nuts living in the same can for five months, guys were at each other's throats. The stress made it worse.

Guys would literally snap over a dear John letter. Their personal issues came out and they were instantly combat ineffective.

Now take someone confused about whether they are a man/woman. Take those psychological and emotional issues and put them in that environment

Take someone who is right off the bat not uniform or part of the same team. Give them special treatment because of their identity.

Take that person, put them in that stressful war environment and watch what happens. It's a fucking ticking time bomb.

You have to be incredibly tough mentally, physically and emotionally. War is not a fucking video game. It tests every ounce of your being.

You can't teach someone to be a fearless warrior in a fucking PowerPoint. You either have it or you don't. You can hack it or you can't.

We had guys who couldn't. When faced with combat situations they crumbled. They had mental and emotional issues. They were a liability.

To be successful at war, you have to become a warrior mentally, physically, and emotionally. You can't fake it and go through the motions.

In war if it comes down to kill or be killed, and you hesitate, you're dead. It's a simple as that. It's not a fucking video game.

War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your shit together, or you don't.

And if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military.

Enough for now. This one armed veteran has a business to run. Unlike Iran, the country that took my arm, Obama didn't pay me millions.

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Nobody talks about Audie Murphy being only 5'6" do they?

To your point, sans personal or locational attacks:

Mr. Murphy didn't require tax-payer funded medication to remain 5'6". Mr. Murphy didn't require tax-payer funded surgery to maintain his height. Mr. Murphy didn't require height sensitivity training for all the other troops to make him "feel" accepted among them.

If we're going to make analogies here, let's keep them apples to apples. Not mental condition (or pre-disposition if you prefer) to height or race.

I was on post yesterday, and there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth... from everyone that had to sit through "transgender sensitivity training".

It's all in the water?
The effect of estrogenic compounds in the water supply? The result being an increase in transgenders thinking they're the opposite sex?

Low sperm counts?
Report fails to mention birth control in water supplies
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/3430098724

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Originally posted by mesabi:
I was on post yesterday, and there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth... from everyone that had to sit through "transgender sensitivity training".

How many hours were spent on this training for both enlisted and officers?

Sounded like it "went long". Probably would have lasted a little over an hour if it was just the briefer going off the PP slides, but there was a lot of "What a bunch of BULLSHIT!" interruptions.

I don't know how much training enlisted personnel get; the folks I hang with are field grades or retired field grades that teach at the college. ("Training" took place about two months ago. I'm retired, so I just laugh and give them shit.)

"For trans people, the most recent estimate was published in 2016 using data from the CDC’s 2014 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System and estimates that transgender people are about 0.6% of the US population or about 1.4 million adult Americans."
https://www.quora.com/Are-ther...xual-transgender-etc

I am really surprised it is that high. I thought it would be like 0.006%

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Originally posted by Crom:
"For trans people, the most recent estimate was published in 2016 using data from the CDC’s 2014 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System and estimates that transgender people are about 0.6% of the US population or about 1.4 million adult Americans."
https://www.quora.com/Are-ther...xual-transgender-etc

I am really surprised it is that high. I thought it would be like 0.006%

I see no logical reason to alter the operation of the military of any other organization to satisfy 0.6% of the populations needs., especially given that it's a choice.

Of those 0.6% I wonder how many truly have all of the mental and emotional aspects of one gender but biological aspects of the other, and how many are just the "look at me" or " this is cool now" crowd

"WE SAID NO!"

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Originally posted by Skins2881
I'll take the tanks over the trannies please

THAT should be a bumper sticker!

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
Not exactly. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner sees himself as a woman, but claims to still prefer women.

That's all total BS. He's nothing more than an attention whore who will obviously do anything to try and get people's attention. I call this the Kardashian Syndrome. If he were really serious about his 'gender', he wouldn't have hesitated to lop off his Johnson. Since his junk is still swinging, I call BS on the 'man'.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

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Originally posted by Ke Bo Li:
I don't see the big deal. What percent of the general population are we talking about? What percent of the military population are we talking about?

What percentage of mentally ill recruits is the military supposed to accept for duty? What percentage of recruits that want elective surgery are they supposed to accept, then pay for their surgery?

Obviously that percentage should be 'zero', and arguing to the contrary is well, stupid.