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"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
 
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From Sanford D. Horwitt, Saul Alinsky's biographer:

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…in the spring of 1972, at Tulane University…students asked Alinsky to help plan a protest of a scheduled speech by George H. W. Bush, then U.S. representative to the United Nations – a speech likely to include a defense of the Nixon administration’s Vietnam War policies. The students told Alinsky they were thinking about picketing or disrupting Bush’s address. That’s the wrong approach, he rejoined, not very creative – and besides causing a disruption might get them thrown out of school. He told them, instead, to go to hear the speech dressed as members of the Ku Klux Klan, and whenever Bush said something in defense of the Vietnam War, they should cheer and wave placards reading, ‘The KKK supports Bush.’ And that is what they did, with very successful, attention-getting results.


Never put it past the Death-cult Communists to launch a false flag operation. Notice that the shiny object now in the crosshairs of the media are "bombs" and not "invaders."




You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.

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The Pipe-Bombs Story: Another Example of Why No One Trusts the Media
By Andrew C. McCarthy

The political Left has been known to orchestrate frame-up attacks designed to make it appear that right-leaning opponents are responsible for violent acts and plots.

If I wrote the paragraph above in the context of reporting or commenting on the pipe bombs that were reportedly sent by an unidentified person or persons to prominent Democrats, many people would react angrily, and rightly so. After all, there is no evidence that the atrocious but thankfully unsuccessful targeting of the Obamas, the Clintons, CNN, George Soros, and Eric Holder (as well as “Debbie Wasserman Shultz,” whose Florida office, with her name misspelled, was given as the return address on some of the packages) was carried out by political leftists. There is no proof that any Democrat was hoping to cast suspicion on Republican supporters, to suggest to voters, less than two weeks before the midterms, that Trump and GOP rhetoric incites violence. To intimate, in the absence of any proof, that left-wing agitators may be responsible would be a condemnable smear.

That’s why this paragraph, by the usually sensible Will Rashbaum in the New York Times’s report on the apparent attempted bombings, is so infuriating:

Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama, Mr. Soros and CNN have all figured prominently in conservative political attacks — many of which have been led by President Trump. He has often referred to major news organizations as “the enemy of the people,” and has had a particular animus for CNN.

The report goes on to say that the CNN bomb package was addressed to former Obama CIA director John Brennan (who is actually a commentator at MSNBC, not CNN). The Times then adds, gratuitously, that Brennan “is a harsh critic of Mr. Trump,” who revoked Brennan’s security clearance “in what was seen as an act of retribution.”

At this point, there is no evidence whatsoever that provocative words from the president had anything to do with the sending of bombs. Indeed, there is as yet no known evidence of who is behind these possible attacks. And speaking of “attacks,” why, in light of the context of a possible bombing spree, is the Times asserting that Secretary Clinton, President Obama, and Mr. Soros have “figured prominently in conservative political attacks”? They have not been subjected to “attacks” in the sense conveyed by this report; they have been on the receiving end of mere political criticism, not the subjects of attempted political assassinations.
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There is plenty of media commentary at the moment about incivility, in the form of incendiary rhetoric and actions. This is entirely appropriate. But I’m at a loss to understand how the climate is improved by spicing up reports with thinly veiled suggestions that President Trump may have triggered a series of potentially murderous attacks on political opponents. When Bernie Sanders supporter James Hodgkinson opened fire on the Republicans he targeted and nearly killed Representative Steve Scalise, I don’t recall much Times speculation about whether he could have been set him off by Democrats urging their supporters to get aggressive — “get in their face”; “if they bring a knife, we bring a gun” — when dealing with political adversaries.

As we often observe after terrorist attacks, everyone needs to take a deep breath until facts begin to emerge. The investigators are doing their jobs. Chances are we will know soon enough who is actually responsible for the pipe bombs. Then we probably won’t need speculation about motive and incitement . . . though there will be no shortage of it, anyway.

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With all the duds and less than 2 weeks to go, Dems hurry back to the huddle trying to figure out the next play.


Perhaps they can find an AL Queida or Taliban member in the Caravan to help them with the next batch?

RMD




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Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
 
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With all the duds and less than 2 weeks to go, Dems hurry back to the huddle trying to figure out the next play.


Perhaps they can find an AL Queida or Taliban member in the Caravan to help them with the next batch?

RMD


these "bombs" were obviously not intended to blow up. Who sends package bombs to people that have staff open all their mail? These were a message, not an attack.



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People who believe that these idiotic, impotent packages were sent out by someone on the political right are so stupid, gullible and uninformed, that they must be leftists. People on the right will not be swayed by this stupid stunt, and the views and votes of the people on the left cannot be swayed by the stunt.

If anything at all, once the facts begin to emerge, this will serve to hurt the leftists, not help them.

You can't make stupid people stupider, or gullible people more gullible. You can't make the uninformed more uninformed, but they can become more misinformed, which means nothing in terms of politics, because these people already are permanent residents of Cluelessville.


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I saw on the news this morning that Robert DeNiro got one. I think this may have become the next #metoo movement for prominent democrats.
 
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The lunacy in thinking these were actual "attacks" when not a single device worked while being transported is astounding.

The only people who are going to have this blow up in their faces is the Left when it comes out that they were all fakes and sent by some Antifa or lunatic Leftist.
 
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I saw on the news this morning that Robert DeNiro got one.
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I saw on the news this morning that Robert DeNiro got one. I think this may have become the next #metoo movement for prominent democrats.

They'll think of it like a badge of honor, like they got a 'bomb'.

Oh, no one on the right gives 2 fucks about washed up DeNiro. No way a person motivated to do real damage would waste the time / effort / risk to target him.

It almost proves this is a complete sham job.
 
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I saw on the news this morning that Robert DeNiro got one.
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Sorry about that. I missed that post, the thread is moving pretty fast.
 
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Funny how I couldn’t find one single article about the packages of ricen sent to President Trump, his family, SecDef and Ted Cruz that speculated about rhetoric from the left having anything to do with them.




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I suspect that they'll have a pretty good idea who's behind this over the next few days. The USPS takes photos of every single piece of mail that's run through their systems, and we have several intact packages. The odds of somebody not leaving any physical evidence behind on so many packages is slim.

Between Big Brother and modern technology, it would be difficult to get away with something like this.



How many years did it take to find crazy Teddy?

I get it, we have better technology now. But if this were real, it could be pulled off. USPS can't even track a simple package across the country.
 
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Originally posted by skonie:
I saw on the news this morning that Robert DeNiro got one. I think this may have become the next #metoo movement for prominent democrats.

They'll think of it like a badge of honor, like they got a 'bomb'.

Oh, no one on the right gives 2 fucks about washed up DeNiro. No way a person motivated to do real damage would waste the time / effort / risk to target him.

It almost proves this is a complete sham job.


Can you imagine waking up this morning, a committed God Damn Commie warrior, to news that former Veep Double Barrel Biden, Maxine Waters and DiNiro received one, and you did not?

You are seen as a potted plant, a nobody, worthless, all those years hanging around all the right receptions, all that cheap gin, worthless veggie dip and boiled shrimp, the occasional cable news interview, an obscure book deal, an expensively dressed Rose Garden extra in DGC admins, and no bomb. Aaarrrrgh!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The symbol of the Democrat Party should not be a donkey, it should be Wylie E. Coyote. Everything they try blows up in their face-- Kavanaugh, the Honduran caravan, and these pipe "bombs." Within days, the leftist who sent these wee little pipelet bombettes that do not go pop! will be identified. Picture Wylie with a smudged-black face.


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I saw on the news this morning that Robert DeNiro got one. I think this may have become the next #metoo movement for prominent democrats.


skonie, you missed one of Para's funniest jokes in my seven years here.... Big Grin Big Grin


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these "bombs" were obviously not intended to blow up. Who sends package bombs to people that have staff open all their mail? These were a message, not an attack.


Well, DUH??!!

The message is "We're incompetent. We can't even fool 5% of the people."

RMD




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Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
 
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You just knew it'd be Florids Man.


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