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goodheart |
OK, we can’t boycott everything. Dick’s was an easy call. But I still use PayPal for example. But here’s a couple examples today that got me hot under the collar: 1. Yelp will add “business accused of racist practices” warning. That should go over great with small businesses. 2. JP Morgan Chase (my bank) will pressure clients on climate change There’s already been plenty of discussion of the major league sports committing suicide, so let’s stick with other businesses you think fall into the “go woke, (we hope) go broke” category. _________________________ “ What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”— Lord Melbourne | ||
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Oriental Redneck |
McDonald's Burger King Chick-Fil-A They will never go broke, I get it. But, it will be a cold day in hell before I'll give them any more of my money. My money my choices. I have no beef with how others spend their money. Q | |||
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Benchmade really irritated me last year. I've accumulated a number of their knives over the years and was in the market for a 940 at the time but there are too many other options out there so it's pretty unlikely I'll ever buy another of their products. | |||
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Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
You’re buying into leftist cancel culture. Don’t do it. If you don’t want to support a company, don’t. If your argument is genuine, the market will sort it out. “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
At some point, the choice in this culture war is going to be a binary one: an unconditional surrender to cancel culture, or a Pyhrric victory. You may as well appeal to the left not to cancel anymore. Myself, I'd rather use their own tactics against them where I can. High road politicking hasn't gained us a damn thing in my lifetime and, following the President's lead, I'd rather smack 'em in back the mouth than turn the other cheek anymore. And make no mistake, this is a culture war we're fighting. They're determined to silence us and shut us down however they can. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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| Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
We’re not at that point. Markets work. Or what do we stand for? “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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| Frangas non Flectes |
Yes, we are. Maybe you don't think we are, but they surely do. In any two sides to a conflict, your opponent always gets a vote. If you haven't been paying sufficient attention to what they've been saying and doing, I don't know where to begin to help get you up to speed on this.
Whatever you're trying to argue, it's not making a lot of sense to me. Markets do work. "Get woke, go broke" isn't just a fanciful wish, it's become a trend that bears out. That's the market at work.
I don't know about "we," but companies that want to lecture me about BLM and queertransnon-binaryXYZ etc. don't get my money any more. Are you arguing that they should? If so, my answer is "you spend your money how you like, and I'll do the same." You either agree or not, and I don't think you do. Which is fine. Some people still want to watch their NFL season openers or NBA finals and scarf some Papa John's pizza and Chick-Fil-A sandwiches while slurping down some Pepsi, and that's their choice. I've found other things to do and ingest that don't directly support companies that support movements who think I'm a racist, oppressive, colonizer for accidentally being born a white man. That's what I stand for. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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| Oriental Redneck |
Not buying into leftist anything. "Boycotting" has been around long before all this woke shit, like since the 19th century. It has nothing to do with left or right. Like I said, I choose to where to spend my money, but I will not care where you spend yours. And, I personally don't care what the market does. Q | |||
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| Oriental Redneck |
Not surprised by many of the usual suspects. But, I'm surprised by some companies that are not on there - Walmart, Walgreens, and United Airlines. Q | |||
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"Member" |
Pornhub? lol While I don't agree with it, I can see the reason a company with lots of brick and mortar might do it "Hopefully they won't loot and burn our buildings down!" (not that it would work.) But something like Pornhub, Vevo, GoDaddy? What's the real upside? It's got to be minute at best. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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Told cops where to go for over 29 years… |
My take on it is this - If "boycotting" a company hurts *me* and not *them* it just seems silly. I do business with a company for mutual benefit. I get their goods or services, they get my money. That is the extent of our transaction and relationship. I care not (for the most part) about what they do with my money and I expect they care not what I do with their product. Now what they do or don't support may factor in to choosing them over another company who offers a similar product or service. Given a choice and all else being equal, I will pick the company my most closely mirrors my beliefs. However I am not going to travel twice as far to pay more for the same thing from Bubba cause we are both Rednecks when Carmin on the corner has it for less. Flip it - how would the BOYCOTT ____ !!!! folks feel if Airlines, restaurants, and retailers refused to sell their products to you because of the way you voted or they disagreed with the bumper stickers on your truck? I thought the LGBTQRSTUV folks were idiots getting up in arms when Chik-Fil-A owner supported traditional family values and there was no mistreatment at the restaurants. I would be a hypocrite to say I will no longer go to Chik-Fil-A because they donate or voice support to BLM so long as it doesn't change the dining experience I have come to expect. I'm there for lunch and to be served by employees that are generally much more competent and attentive than other fast food places, in a facility that is generally cleaner than most other fast food places. I buy from Costco, I don't give a shit about their stand on concealed carry in their business. It's their business, and I ignore it anyway so their "official" policy is irrelevant. It's a wink and a nod, they say what they say for the sake of keeping the peace, I ignore it for my personal safety and we can both achieve our mutual goals without friction or conflict. It is more about legal protection for the business than anything and in today's culture I get the need to have it just like "WARNING HOT COFFEE IS HOT" warnings on coffee cups. I save money buy shopping there and they have products I like that I can't get elsewhere. If they want to no longer sell some cheese because the cheese company boss has been targeted over his comments, I don't care. I wasn't buying that cheese anyway. That dust up doesn't affect me one way or another and is irrelevant to the 911Boss-Costco relationship. If the cheese boss is concerned about losing business he has the option to not make public comments about matters unrelated to his business. I'd love to signal my virtue on how I have boycotted Starbaucks or the NFL for years. The simple fact is I think Starbucks is overpriced and tastes like shit - in my opinion there are better and cheaper options when I want coffee. The fact they continue to hire idiots who damage the bottom line is just a "bonus". As for the NFL and other professional sports, never been a big fan of watching adults get paid exorbitant amounts of money to play games. Also don't think the "entertainment" is worth the cost so I spend my entertainment budget elsewhere. All of the kneeling crap and other shenanigans just serves to reinforce my decision that they are a bunch of overgrown, spoiled children. My experience is that "celebrities" whether sports, music, hollywood, etc are generally driven by narcissism and an innate craving for attention and approval. I see them as people I might pay to provide entertainment. If I choose to do so I want to see them perform their tricks and then be done with them. I don't care about their personal beliefs, personal struggles, romantic hardships, political ideas, etc. We aren't friends or family and that stuff is not part of the business relationship or why I have engaged in their services. If more folks in this country stopped putting these folks on pedestals you might find a lot of problems would get resolved or just go away. What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???  | |||
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Any corporation donating to BLM is doing it just to proclaim they aren’t racist and have not really looked into the group. 70% of the funds donated to BLM go directly to the 3 women who started it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CaOooPBJZDs | |||
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| goodheart |
Jaime Dimond is the CEO of JP Morgan Chase; he’s also chair of a Business Roundtable group that is starting to push SJW stuff like the climate change business I mentioned in the OP. Unfortunately he’s also a brilliant CEO and Chase—the bank we are now tied to—doing extremely well compared to other big banks. The local people I deal with are terrific and I get breaks on various things, so I’m not leaving. But I will let my financial advisor there know how I feel regarding basic stuff like gun control. Here’s another issue I’m wrestling with: I am a member of a local semi-pro choir; among other things we sing with the local symphony. The choral director is an SJW; he decided the choir would sing a piece called “The Seven Last Words of the Unarmed”—guess what that was about. Michael Brown et al. I managed to skip out of it because we were going on a trip; but he’s announced he’s going to be doing more such stuff. This is a great group; with some “deplorable” in it, not just me. But I’ve decided I’m not going to stand up there and endorse lies destructive to our country. I’m waiting to see if there’s a group statement by those who think like me. I If not, I will let everyone know exactly why I am quitting the choir. Why do the fine things in life we all enjoy have to become suffused with politics? _________________________ “ What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”— Lord Melbourne | |||
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| I Am The Walrus |
It's nothing but a shakedown scheme that's tax free. I hope after President Trump is re-elected next month that the DOJ and IRS take deep looks at what that money is being used for. _____________ | |||
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Fortified with Sleestak |
"It will never work" is the mantra that is always thrown out during these discussions. Tell that to Gillette. Hit so hard that they have decided they will no longer be woke in their advertising. And if that makes one less company running white males into the fucking ground,well then yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus. Seem boycotts do in fact work. I have the heart of a lion.......and a lifetime ban from the Toronto Zoo.- Unknown | |||
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| Frangas non Flectes |
Like Gillette, Disney is another one that got burned by getting “woke.” No official announcements afaik, but a lot of leaks about how it’s coming from the top down that they are now, and moving forward will be, a for-profit company and there will be no mocking or belittling of the customer tolerated. A lot of this follows Kathleen Kennedy’s handling of the Star Wars franchise, and comments from her and Rian Johnson about how they weren't making movies for "middle-aged white men" and much worse. They took the most successful franchise in history, injected woke SJW politics and mismanaged it so badly that two out of three films underperformed and literal tons of merchandise from all three films are sitting in warehouses because it isn’t selling. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
If I refused to deal with every company in P220's list I'd starve to death. The main interest of every company is to make money; the second one is to not be destroyed by rioters. Sometimes those interests have an intersection. I will continue to patronize businesses that sell things I like, unless their support of radical groups is so big I can't abide by it. If there are other businesses selling similar products I will consider buying those instead, but I'm finicky and there aren't a lot of alternates for the things I prefer. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| It's pronounced just the way it's spelled |
The whole idea we can't boycott businesses to make them stop this whole SJW crap is absurd. Do you know how much lower the NBA finals viewership is this year? It is down 68%! And now, their commissioner has announced all that BLM crap is gone next season. There are a lot of companies on that list that you can find alternatives to. For example, replace Google with Duckduckgo. FedEx with UPS. And let them know WHY you are going to their competitors. Money talks and BS walks. | |||
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| Frangas non Flectes |
If you're living off foods produced or delivered by (in alphabetical order) Ben & Jerry’s, Burger King, Chick-fil-A, Chipotle, Coca Cola, Doritos, DoorDash, Frosted Mini Wheats, Gatorade, Gushers, Hershey’s, McDonald’s, Pepsi Co, Popeye’s Chicken, Pop-Tarts, Pringles, Red Lobster, Reese’s, Rice Krispies, Starbucks, Subway, Sysco Corporation, Taco Bell, Uber Eats, and Wendy’s and not merely being hyperbolic, then I might humbly suggest that not only would you not starve to death by cutting all of those companies out of your intake, you'd actually be much healthier and happier for having done so. Let's be plain, here. The left has no problem coordinating to go after who and what they see as their political enemies. A lot of folks on the right, by contrast, remind me of pandas born in captivity who won't mate to save their species. If eating Doritos and drinking Pepsi because you're finicky is your priority, I guess I don't know what to say to that, really. Surely that list isn't complete and so I don't view it as the end-all, but there are alternatives to every single business on that list and the many others who espouse these beliefs and donate to, and support radical leftists. It's not unreasonable to seek out their competitors, give them your business, and let them know why they now have it. It is far from the point where you have to do business with folks who pander to the left, but if we as consumers don't speak up and start putting our money where our mouth is, then eventually it may actually get to that point. I'm not starving over here, and I'm not bored or lacking entertainment. Putting it mildly: to imply that this is, or will be the case, is unrealistic at the very least. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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