Sucker Puncher vs. Concealed Carrier…video in Twitter link
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September 09, 2022, 12:19 PM
PeteF
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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
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Originally posted by 83v45magna: I like the big guy who ran to the end of the hall when dip-shit took his hot lead injection, then strolls by him as if he's not there right afterwards.
I noticed that as well. FWIW, my read; the moment he saw the gun presented, immediately followed by the gunshot, with a single round that narrowly missed him by, what, maybe a foot or so? He did what most of us would do, and ran in the opposite direction of the shooter/ gun that posed the biggest immediate threat, after a short distance and time, he turns to re-evaluate the situation.
Once he determines the shooter/ gun were no longer located in the doorway he quickly approaches the glass door to see where they went, and he quickly passes the sucker puncher perp and barely sees him laying low on the ground, and likely assumes that he is like everyone else in the vicinity and either ran or dropped to the ground. At the time he passed him I don't think he even realized sucker puncher perp had been shot.
I could well be wrong, but the way the tall guy who ran behaved in so quickly trying to break up and separate the two groups after the sucker punch, he struck me as some sort of authority figure. It looked like sucker puncher perp's buddy was immediately queued up for round 2, and the shooter may well have perceived 2 threats, but only chose to engage the one who hit him.
I'd be willing to bet that if more of the surveillance video was shown, viewers would see the events that led up to a confrontation and the sucker punch. It could be that the shooter had already been threatened or hit prior to this punch and decided to start carrying a gun for the next time it happened.
Slightly different take. To me it looks like the guy in the white shirt was just another customer. After guy got sucker punched he got between victim and sucker puncher and SP homie. Once bullets start flying, he went "oh hell no, didn't sign up for this, Im outta here". Could be completely wrong.
September 09, 2022, 12:37 PM
Sig2340
Once again a bully spends the last moments of his life sitting on the floor of a dirty room, watching his life slowly leak from his body, and realizing no one can save him.
As to the shooter, he's going away for a long time.
Nice is overrated
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September 09, 2022, 12:46 PM
Flashlightboy
This is a case of increasing the value to society by the subtraction method and while crimson looks good on his white shirt, I don't see how this is going to be a good shoot.
Too many factors say the threat was over, the shooter was actually in the door on his way out when he turned and pulled. The bad guy didn't have a weapon on him and none of his friends made any kind of threatening moves towards the shooter.
Perhaps the shooter had his brain rocked in his head so hard that he had a hard, if not very difficult, time sorting out his location, reality and so on. We've seen other sucker punch vids and serious head injuries happen.
But absent that, I believe the authorities will throttle the shooter if they find him.
September 09, 2022, 12:48 PM
bordeth
Play stupid games...win stupid prizes....that shooter though is probably going to end up with a new boyfriend.
September 09, 2022, 12:58 PM
patw
I hate to say an example needs to be made but our leaders have failed us and continue to do so. How many times in the news now do we read about people getting sucker punched or stabbed for no reason other than some people are just flat out evil to the core? It seems like an every day occurrence and seems like no end in sight. Some victims don't recover and those that do, have continual health/psych. issues.
September 09, 2022, 01:01 PM
jhe888
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Originally posted by PeteF:
Slightly different take. To me it looks like the guy in the white shirt was just another customer. After guy got sucker punched he got between victim and sucker puncher and SP homie. Once bullets start flying, he went "oh hell no, didn't sign up for this, Im outta here". Could be completely wrong.
That is more what I thought, but all of this is little more than pure guesswork, so all the armchair dissection and "expert" analysis is a little silly and certainly out of place.
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September 09, 2022, 01:33 PM
Johnny 3eagles
Puncher gets two shots to the chest.
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Shooter plugged the piss out of Puncher. Bullet went right through. Not much blood on the front, although he was leaking there. Tons of blood out the back.
In the bullet design business, I think you call that "Excellent Terminal Performance".
ETA: It's also a fine example of FAFO, or Fuck Around and Find Out.
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September 09, 2022, 01:56 PM
Skins2881
He probably should have kept walking out that door instead of turning around.
Jesse
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September 09, 2022, 02:01 PM
ZSMICHAEL
My old neighborhood has gotten worse. He was Judge,Jury and Executioner.
September 09, 2022, 02:08 PM
Rick Lee
Perfect case for jury nullification, though shooter will have quite a ride before it gets to that.
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September 09, 2022, 02:23 PM
RichardC
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Tons of blood out the back.
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Originally posted by MikeinNC: I wanna know what gun and what ammo
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Originally posted by ArtieS: Tons of blood out the back.
Maybe pureed pulmonary parenchyma?
9MM!
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September 09, 2022, 02:27 PM
Underdog
Since it is Chicago we have to wonder if the shooter was legally carrying.
They've loosened up the CC laws some, but I would bet a C-note he wasn't legally carrying.
September 09, 2022, 02:28 PM
darthfuster
Looks like retribution not self defense. Must have been a 9mm because his lungs were blown out.
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September 09, 2022, 02:30 PM
sgalczyn
Justified!
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September 09, 2022, 02:32 PM
MikeGLI
The amount of sucker punch videos out there are sickening, lord only knows how many MORE times this is happening, we just dont see it.
I wont comment on (my opinion of) the legality, but I'll tell you I don't give a hoot about the dead guy, not one single big.
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September 09, 2022, 02:34 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by Rick Lee: Perfect case for jury nullification, though shooter will have quite a ride before it gets to that.
Perhaps.
But seriously, does anyone know any back story here at all? For all we know, the shooter raped the pugalist's sister or sold drugs to his younger brother or maybe he just banged his mom. Or the guy was just a piece of shit who sucker punched the wrong dude. Does anyone actually know?
ETA: From the link above, "an argument started inside before shots were fired."
If you sucker punch someone over "an argument," then yeah, I don't have any sympathy for you if you get your lungs blown out the back as a result.
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September 09, 2022, 02:40 PM
ZSMICHAEL
In West Garfield park, people just don't talk to the cops. I am sure there are rumors on the street. Being Chicago and their ages I would want to know about gang affiliation and prior arrests. Oh it is probably on Facebook. lol