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| 7.62mm Crusader |
I went through this for many years back in New York State. Pre bans were OK to own. After cuomo 2 got hired by the Big Apple, we had to get rid of all high caps. Havn't lived or visited back in that State now for 3 1/2 years. Maybe we can sell those west coasters some Post Ban mags at huge prices..  . | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
You can wait for SIG to loosen up – might take awhile. Or you could look for another supplier. If the latter, don’t wait too long. There might be an adverse court decision. And maybe the sudden CA demand will exhaust supplier inventories. Serious about crackers | |||
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Yokel |
Yes I received the same email. It was sure good to see a Firearms Manufacture web Sight get on board. My CC has taken a rather large hit lately. Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it! - John Steinbeck | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
The CA asked for a stay and essentially asked the court to grant it without the plaintiff (Duncan) being able to file a substantive response. Duncan asked for time to file a detailed opposition and the AG replied with a different request to grant a temporary injunction. As of yesterday Justice Benitez had neither acted on nor set a date for any oral presentation of the motions. In their moving papers the CA AG conceded that it's legal for residents to buy high cap or as they call them LCMs, but also difficult to recapture them so that is sort of their tail-wagging-the-dog argument for a stay or an injunction. It's doubtful that Benitez will agree since he could have very easily issued his decision and a stay pending appeal but he didn't. I don't see a strong likelihood that he will now and if that's the case, off we go for the 9th Circuit circus. | |||
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| Yokel |
Didn’t SIG sell some P226s with magazines with the plus two base plate with them. So if they did, then the plus 2 mags could be considered as the standard magazine on them. Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it! - John Steinbeck | |||
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Low Speed, High Drag |
April 2, 2019 – NRA and CRPA Attorneys Oppose California’s Request to Immediately Halt “Large-Capacity” Magazine Ruling in part it says...… "should the judgment be stayed immediately, even if only temporarily, countless otherwise law-abiding Californians who have already ordered LCMs in reliance on the Court's order but have not received them would unjustly be subjected to severe criminal penalties without notice. See Cal. Penal Code § 32310(a); see also Cal. Penal Code § 1170(h). Therefore, unless the Court can unequivocally protect those individuals in an order granting the State’s temporary stay request, that request should be denied." "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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| Irksome Whirling Dervish |
I see where you're going with that line of thought however that's not exactly what's going relative to the court ruling. Benitez said the ban on magazine capacity in that section of the Penal Code is unconsitutional however IIRC, there are other specific sections of the CA law that say guns can't be sold to civilians that exceed 10 rounds. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so. It creates a legal gray area where the gun wasn't supposed to sold with the hi caps but the state can't enforce the possession of them. It's the difference - convoluted as it is - that says it can't be sold but we can't take them once you have them. | |||
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| Member |
Now a day later Natchez CALLS me and says oh hey sorry were out of Pmags. FML. What DO you have in stock ?! Less money spent I guess | |||
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| Baroque Bloke |
“FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) -- The ads are popping up everywhere. Gun stores are eagerly welcoming back California customers after the state's nearly twenty-year ban on certain ammunition magazines was declared unconstitutional. "Immediately we had people calling us and asking us do you have standard capacity magazines, can we buy them are they legal," said Jacob Belemjian, owner of The Firing Line. The flood of questions started last Friday when a U.S. District Court declared Proposition 63 unconstitutional. The voter-approved measure banned the possession of magazines holding more than ten bullets. The law calls the magazines "large-capacity," but they are often the standard size for those guns…” www.google.com/amp/s/abc30.com...titutional-/5231610/ Serious about crackers | |||
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| Yokel |
Just checked on my orders. One is getting delivered today. One is somewhere in the middle of the USA on a truck bouncing up and down. Two orders are shipping today. All in all I got everything covered I think. Life is good!! Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it! - John Steinbeck | |||
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King Nothing |
Think I'm getting my first order tomorrow. I might have gone a little over board in the end ordering similar things from 3 vendors, but wanted to make sure I got some of my stuff haha. ...Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, was just a freight train coming your way... | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Issued today by Becerra (Defendant). Threatening if Benitez does not issue a stay by the end of the day, he will take it ASAP to the 9th Circus.
http://michellawyers.com/wp-co...Ex-Parte-to-Stay.pdf "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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E tan e epi tas |
Said EVERY CA gun owner at some point this weekend. I am surprised there aren’t wildfires from all the friction from all the simultaneous credit cards being ripped from wallets.  Good on ya guys. Here is hoping this is the start of something big. "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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| Freethinker |
I hope everything turns out well for the California gun owners who have ordered magazines these last few days and there will be no “gray area” about their possession in the future. That said, if the courts attempt to make it illegal to have possession them after they were ruled to be legal to own, I hope it will serve to motivate enough new owners to express their outrage that the law itself will be changed by the legislature. ► 6.4/93.6 “ Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one’s own understanding without another’s guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one’s own mind without another’s guidance.” — Immanuel Kant | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Always fun to watch the churn of an insane state. Good luck out there! | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
"Irreparable harm to the state"!?!? What %$@!()& "irreparable harm to the state"!?!? | |||
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| Get Off My Lawn |
Judge Benitez ordered a stay before the 5pm deadline. Purchases after today is illegal. But those who did purchase in the last week are grandfathered in, possession of standard caps seems to be legal. http://michellawyers.com/wp-co...t-Pending-Appeal.pdf "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
So, the judge blinked at Becerra's threat? Q | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
Perhaps predicting that an emergency motion would land on one or more rather unfriendly judges at the 9th? There will soon be a few more strict constructionists on that court. Slow-rolling the appeal might be advantageous. | |||
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| Get Off My Lawn |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If this went to the 9th for a stay, they most likely would have dialed back legal possession of standard cap mags. Benitez issuing the stay was the best strategy for CA gun owners for now. But it is a good bet the 9th will get their claws on this thing. God, I'm glad I do not reside there anymore. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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