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saigonsmuggler
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California AG Becerra and Judge Benitez

 
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I think it is the ban in its entirity.

If I recall correctly the most recent ban on possession was not codified in new PC sections but rather new verbage was added to the existing laws that banned manufacture/importation/sales/blah blah blah.

I've seen Arms Unlimitted and PrepperGunStore state they are now shipping to us.

The one caveat that I can think of is this: the AWB still states that a fixed magazine centerfire weapon with a capacity of 11 or more is an assault weapon. Logic leads me to believe this ruling won't change that particular avenue of restriction...

So for us CA, I wouldn't be putting those standard cap mags in a fixed mag rifle, but I would put it in a featureless rifle.

Either way, buy this weekend before there is even the chance of an injunction on Monday. The timing of this release was awesome.


Yes, the ruling makes PC 32310 unconstitutional, and that includes the acquisition of standard cap mags. The ruling also requires CA A.G. Xavier Becerra to notify all LE personnel of this order.

Happy for the folks in my former state. AWB is still in effect, thumperfbc is right,. The big unknown is what happens next week with the 9th Circus.


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So who's got the best price on 10/22 mags???

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So for us CA, I wouldn't be putting those standard cap mags in a fixed mag rifle, but I would put it in a featureless rifle.

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I may just have to bring back some from my stash in a neighboring state.


I need to borrow a boat and scuba gear. Need to return to the lake where I lost my entire gun collection and see if my standard cap mags are still usable. Wink


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so for the time being, full cap mags are legal?


I'm thinking it's only the grandfathered standard cap mags are legal. Those were made illegal by this law.


I think it is the ban in its entirity.

If I recall correctly the most recent ban on possession was not codified in new PC sections but rather new verbage was added to the existing laws that banned manufacture/importation/sales/blah blah blah.

I've seen Arms Unlimitted and PrepperGunStore state they are now shipping to us.

The one caveat that I can think of is this: the AWB still states that a fixed magazine centerfire weapon with a capacity of 11 or more is an assault weapon. Logic leads me to believe this ruling won't change that particular avenue of restriction...

So for us CA, I wouldn't be putting those standard cap mags in a fixed mag rifle, but I would put it in a featureless rifle.

Either way, buy this weekend before there is even the chance of an injunction on Monday. The timing of this release was awesome.


Ya that seems to be the consensus on CG. I went featureless for the standard mag release, now hopefully I get to enjoy standard AR mags too. I didn't buy any drums, though...



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Ya that seems to be the consensus on CG. I went featureless for the standard mag release, now hopefully I get to enjoy standard AR mags too. I didn't buy any drums, though...


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Wait. So one can now buy, possess, carry and use standard mags now? Statewide? At least for pistols?



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Wait. So one can now buy, possess, carry and use standard mags now? Statewide? At least for pistols?


and featureless rifles it seems.
 
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Good for California!!We need a younger version(s) to get religion too.

Who are youngsters that are clerking for him.
 
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Aw some of the shops are starting to back out until further notice. Supposedly some will still ship, some will not. I have couple orders with a couple vendors for the same things, see what shows up.



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I've heard orders are going through at Palmetto now.
 
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I'll be real surprised if they push it to the 9th, which would ultimately end up in front of the SCOTUS if they reversed it. That's a huge gamble for other ban states that I'm not sure the commies are willing to risk given the current make-up of the SCOTUS.
 
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I've heard orders are going through at Palmetto now.


PSA has been kind of strange. They outright block PMags and I just tried the daily deal D&H ones and they are blocked. Some people said their pistol mag orders went through, and some other standard cap AR mags worked. Couple people on CG said customer service at PSA and Buds and some other places have basically said they'll let the orders pend until further information next week. Preppers said they cancelled all orders. I just put an order in at RTG and it went through. It will be an interesting week ahead.



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I'll be real surprised if they push it to the 9th, which would ultimately end up in front of the SCOTUS if they reversed it. That's a huge gamble for other ban states that I'm not sure the commies are willing to risk given the current make-up of the SCOTUS.


Don't underestimate the commie arrogance in California.


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Will this decision have any effect on other states with hi cap mag bans?
 
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Will this decision have any effect on other states with hi cap mag bans?

ATTENTION SIG FORUM LAWYERS!!!

What's your opinion as to how this affects or impacts other states? Can the "case law" of this case be applied to Colorado (for example) or NY?

James


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I'll be real surprised if they push it to the 9th, which would ultimately end up in front of the SCOTUS if they reversed it. That's a huge gamble for other ban states that I'm not sure the commies are willing to risk given the current make-up of the SCOTUS.


Don't underestimate the commie arrogance in California.


It's going to be interesting, that's for sure. I'm just glad to see the commies get kicked right square in the balls front hole every once in a while!
 
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So this is good, right? We're happy about this, correct? Cause I'm pretty sure I'm happy about it.


If they don't appeal it, they have to abide by it permanently. They're not going to want to do that. They also likely think they'll get a friendlier reception in the 9th Circuit.

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I'll be real surprised if they push it to the 9th, which would ultimately end up in front of the SCOTUS if they reversed it. That's a huge gamble for other ban states that I'm not sure the commies are willing to risk given the current make-up of the SCOTUS.
 
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