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Hop head  |
well, if it helps, I sold a MG13 mag to a guy in CA last week, shipped yesterday https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
Thank you  When Top Gun had the dozen MIL-SPEC 30 rd mags for $99, I was able to find out just how fast they deliver and Rachel was kind enough to leave a personalized note too Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| I Am The Walrus |
I'm so happy for you guys. I was hoping you would buy out places such as PSA, Primary Arms, AIM, etc. Just clear them all out of standard capacity mags. _____________ | |||
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According to a couple of my friends who tried to find mags, “Out of Stock” was a common theme as the week progressed. Hopefully guys found a what they needed/wanted before the expiration. Now the wait for the courts to decide. ____________________________________________________________ Money may not buy happiness...but it will certainly buy a better brand of misery A man should acknowledge his losses just as gracefully as he celebrates his victories Remember, in politics it's not who you know...it's what you know about who you know | |||
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I want to thank everyone that wished us well and congratulated us on our victory. I also want to thank all the vendors that shipped right away, in theory they put themselfs at risk. This may be amazing news to some, but, to put it mildly, not everyone in this state is as pleased with the decision as we are, Trump Derrangement Syndrome pegged the meter and various sectors seem in meltdown status. Our Attorney General is the master of understatement, " there is evidence that some of these large capicity magazines are currently being shipped into the state". I can hardly wait for Californian, Dept of Justice, Firearms Unit to come up with some compliance advisories to attempt to deal with this. Thanks again Scott | |||
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Ammoholic |
The lines at CA shooting ranges this week are going to suck. Have fun guys. Let freedom ring. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Wait, what? |
I’m just tickled to see how quickly after the decision the flood of magazines poured into California. And I’m equally relieved for all the people that obviously had “illegal” hi-caps stashed away are now protected from criminal status. I hope all the commies in charge are apoplectic over the speed with which their decades of tyranny evaporated. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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| Live Slow, Die Whenever  |
 "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Has anyone heard a reliable estimate of how many magazines were airdropped in to California? It may be very important for the "common use" argument to come. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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| Live Slow, Die Whenever |
Pretty sure we are in the million(s) being shipped to CA, and then some being manufactured from rebuild kits/unblocking old 10rd mags. No way to tell how many standard mags now exist in CA, but its more than enough to be considered common use. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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Reliable? No. I thought I read somewhere that Beccera said 43 million. I think that’s ridiculous, particularly just a few days into the buying frenzy. If you consider just new purchases and being shipped, I’d guess 0.5-5 million. You got to consider how many gun owners were paying attention, how many guns they have that needed “standard” mags still, etc. It ain’t 43 million. P229 | |||
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Note to the Office of AG Beccera and the CA Dept of Justice, we know you are reading this: I seriously doubt than any of the 39,560,000 people that live in Calidornia had in their possession , prior to this decision, any prohibited magazines, nor is it likely any will be obtained while the stay is in effect. | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
I bet the limiting factor was order processing. There was certainly a glut of magazines. I wonder if some merchants were running 3 shifts, to get the orders out the door in anticipation of a stay. UPS, USPS, and FedEx must have been swamped. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
What a win for California gun owners. Even if short lived, the fact so many bought standard magazines in such a short period sends a clear message that law abiding gun owners are not the problems. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
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| It's not you, it's me.  |
Haven’t seen this in the thread, but does/will this have any benefit to states like NJ and NY? | |||
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| Live Slow, Die Whenever |
Depends, the ruling only affected CA. However, im sure this will end up in the 9th which could overturn it, followed by a look by scotus. It could lead to a nation wide case and judgement. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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| Ammoholic |
I suspect that regardless of what the 9th says, it will be appealed to the Supreme Court. I don’t see either side backing down. I hope we get a conservative group of judges in the random draw at the 9th. It would be ideal if the Supremes take it up and go with Judge Benitez, but but if they deny cert I hope we end up with the right answer anyway. Edited to fix typo. s/the/they/This message has been edited. Last edited by: slosig, | |||
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Serenity now! |
That's a really good point. Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice - pull down your pants and slide on the ice. ʘ ͜ʖ ʘ | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
I don't think the state could credibly argue that because the magazines were banned by the state that they aren't in common use. That would allow a back door to defeat the test announced in Heller, and the court won't sit still for that. The court is going to look at common use more broadly than that. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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