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Get Off My Lawn |
Of course I wasn't there during the dog incident, but a dog off leash running towards me and my dog on a walk, I pick up my Jack Russell into my arms and brace for a confrontation, especially if a large dog. Sounds like you did what you had to do. As far as your neighbors, fuck them. Telling you to stay off "their street" is a major act of self-centered bullying. People chasing folks out of restaurants, fuck em. People trying to chase folks off of public streets, double fuck em. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
While I was always armed when I walked my dogs > I also carried a log stick (actually a long fiberglass golf shaft) when we walked. I was always able to fend off curious dogs. I never let them get close. If they did my dog could take care of her self (Boxer). I would NEVER want to hurt another dog unless absolutely the last resort and would try to avoid a conflict at all costs. It would be a shame not to consider prevention methods like a stick or whatever first. YMMV | |||
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Hop head  |
grandparents ran a Dairy Farm in Halifax Va when I was a kid, each farmer in the area knew what each had as far as dogs, while you could hunt with dogs, the deer were so few then no one bothered, so, a few stray dogs go across the farm fields, the standing order was shoot to kill, dogs kill chickens, turkeys, pigs, calves etc, and those animals cost too much to loose https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Exceptional Circumstances |
I agree. Way too easy to second guess. We weren't there. As far as the neighbors, I would rather have my dog with me every night than worry about what they thought of me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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I dont really think that there is enough information to determine if it was "a good shoot". A couple of people have asked the question, but i didnt see an answer so i'll ask again. What was the owners response when you alerted her and how much time did you give her to respond before shooting? I've had countless encounters back when I had a dog where a dog from a yard or at a park came running over during a walk but I was always able to diffuse the situation without blasting. I am not saying you were in the wrong but I think more details are needed for some of us to be convinced it was a justified shooting. I had a neighbor whose dog got loose on her in the winter when the dog pulled her off the porch on the ice breaking her arm. She would have been pretty devasted if someone would have shot the dog. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
1. OP doesn't owe you any further explanation so you can play internet judge 2. The sheriff's dept was actually on the scene and ruled it was a good shoot Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
Do a web search on dog attacks (for about anywhere) it shows they go off way too much. A friend of our kids was attacked by dogs when over another friends house. Playing in their yard and their dogs got out and attacked him. Put him in the hospital, luckily he survived. Owners were sued and ended up paying $250K for medical and injury - and the dogs were ordered to be put down. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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Didn't say he owed me anything, just said there wasn't enough info for me and some others to make the determination. I get it, if I don't agree with you I cant post a dissenting viewpoint.  | |||
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I wasn’t there either, so no comment on the main event. I’ve dealt with ornery dogs a few times, barking, growling, & snarling. I did ‘stand my ground’ while holding a splitting maul on a pitbull. Then there was the two where I fired a warning shot in the dirt by them, they left. My preferred non-lethal tool is a stout rod. I have no problems if shooting is called for, some dogs may well need it. We own a German Shepherd, she’s actually a bit friendly but does bark. I only let her free in a safe area. She was penned when the furnace guy came a month ago, let it be known they weren’t regulars. I was on the trail a while back, dog leashed. This lady stops her bike before meeting to fiddle with something. I could see she was getting her pepper spray ready. As she got closer she said she was afraid even though the dog was leashed. I just said that’s fine, do what you have to do, though no danger. | |||
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'The determination' was made by the local sheriff deputies, who stated "it was a good defense". _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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There isn't enough information to make anyone think it was a bad shoot either. SO why can't you accept his story at face value? | |||
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If you read my original post you will see that I did not say he was in the wrong, just that a few more details would help clarify the situation. I merely stated that in my experience encountering dogs, I never had a situation where I felt shooting the dog was necessary, therefore I am curious about the details that led up to it (e.g. how much time the dog owner had to respond). If a person posts something like this on the internet they obviously want to talk about it so I don't think it's unreasonable to have a few questions regarding the details. | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
OP posted this for discussion. This isn't an echo chamber, so it's reasonable to see how others may want clarifying info before drawing conclusions. That's how 'discussions' usually work. I saw no disrespect or impropriety in asking for clarification. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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| Rail-less and Tail-less |
If the OP doesn’t want to talk about it maybe don’t post about it _______________________________________________ Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
I have no problems with a dissenting view but I have problems with: Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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You or any of the moderators are free to read all of my posts over the years, never started any trouble. Just more of a reader than a poster, heck my wife has been reading this forum as long as I have and she doesn't even have an account. I think it's evident by your posts on this thread that you are the one exhibiting troll like behavior by personally attacking me twice. now | |||
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| The Velvet Voicebox |
The sheriff deputies said it was a good defense. You defended yourself & Jake. You were exonerated for pulling your firearm and using it by sheriff deputies. That is a good shoot. "All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Sir Winston Churchill "The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose." --James Earl Jones | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
Maxxpower, You caught me! You caught the Tater! You can take down those roadblocks now! I confess to making 1270 posts a year for nearly 13 years, met Sigforumites for dinner, hung out for 3 days with Sigforumites at a Bruce Gray class, spent tens of thousands of dollars on Sigforum recommendations, never been on moderated status (or even warned) in hopes I could troll your inevitable entitled smart ass post. In all seriousness, put yourself in the OP’s shoes. Somebody who makes six posts a year demands a better explanation and the best the OP can hope for is some unknown smart ass wannabe self-appointmented internet judge will agree with him. At worst, the neighbor sues since they likely have a very large vet bill and anything the OP posts is subject to discovery. If you were an infrequent poster with expertise such as Mass Ayoob it might be worth it to the OP to get his opinion on whether or not it was a justifiable shooting. If you were a known frequent poster such as the Sigforumite who works at the USPS and walks a 10+ mile route 200+ days a year while being prohibited from carrying a firearm it might be worth it to the OP to post more in hopes of learning effective non-lethal strategies for dealing with dogs. What’s the upside in the OP responding to you? Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| SF Jake |
Busted!  ________________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither | |||
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So the new rules for being able to post on a thread according to you are: - Minimum post count of 10,000 - Complete agreement with original poster and you on any & all topics Do you have any idea how arrogant you sound? And the ironic part is that you have this quote written in your signature line: "Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity" I enjoy this forum and have never had any problems with anyone so I will bow out of this thread in the interest of civility.  P.S. In all seriousness I have always liked your steaming cup of coffee avatar  | |||
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