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The big question is, was the lack watching the original fire location deliberate or negligent? I highly suspect this was deliberate, as the Dem leadership was probably salivating over taking the land.

Years ago in Santa Cruz there was a Chinatown close to downtown and the river. It just happened to burn down to the ground one day. Then developers bought up the land. The .gov might not have been involved, but greed probably was.


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Of course then there's Minnesota...and Massachusetts, where I'm sitting right now.

Same mindset, they talk to each other and then attempt to use the same talking points.... white supremacy, impact bias, institutional racism, etc... Look at the quotes from LA mayor Bass, Minneapolis mayor Jabob Frey or Boston mayor Michelle Wu and they come across as clones. Like Newsom, they're heavily stage-handled, overly-polished when a camera is around using all the right buzzwords and an army of assistants carefully crafting their every move, which to any Normys comes across as disingenuous and unaware.
 
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And now the LA Times reports only 13% of the homes destroyed have been issued building permits.

13%.

That is about 1,000 properties of the 13,000+ destroyed.

And that is issued the permit; it does not mean construction has begun.



This was eight months ago:






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Adam Carolla has been all over this and doing great work as he has advanced construction knowledge and also knows how to make it funny for a layman. His take is the permits issued are for people rebuilding the same Sqaure footage. If you had an old 1950’s ‘small’ 1500 foot 3/2 ranch home and you have a vacant lot that would support 4000 sq Ft 5/5. You could get a permit easily for that same 1500 foot house. The new permit for 3x the size is not happening quickly if ever
 
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And now the LA Times reports only 13% of the homes destroyed have been issued building permits.

13%.

That is about 1,000 properties of the 13,000+ destroyed.

And that is issued the permit; it does not mean construction has begun.]


I am thinking they (the LA Times) got something wrong with those numbers. Actual number is likely in the 1.3% range. Wink






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Drove through the Malibu and Palisade area on Monday. Pretty sad to see all the burnt foundations. There was hardly any progress on rebuilding that I could see.
 
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The more I read about California, the more disgusted I get. Of course then there's Minnesota...and Massachusetts, where I'm sitting right now.


There is a reason I've moved all the way out here to Nevada, from NY/CT/MA


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Drove through the Malibu and Palisade area on Monday. Pretty sad to see all the burnt foundations. There was hardly any progress on rebuilding that I could see.


I walked through Lahaina, Maui a few weeks ago. Almost zero progress for rebuilding on the historic sites. Some home construction is happening.

It’s fair to note that resources and labor are not on par with the mainland. So things will take longer. The historic district will likely never be the same.

I spoke with a woman who experienced the fire from beginning to end right in the middle of it. She said the timeline and sheer size of the firestorm made extinguishing it impossible before it became wild.

She said start to firestorm was 20 minutes. It was so fast that people couldn’t escape before it overwhelmed them. She only survived because she was working in a 100% concrete building and took refuge inside. It was a terrible event that no one could have mitigated.



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40% of cleared lots have been sold to investors.






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One year later.

Virtually nothing has been done with rebuilding.

There are serious questions about the environmental cleanup, with apparent documented illegal disposal of hazardous waste by the contractors.





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A House investigation led by Jim Jordan, who would have thought Roll Eyes.





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A House investigation led by Jim Jordan, who would have thought Roll Eyes.


Video summarizing the report. It was yet another scam to line the pockets of leftist NGOs.






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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...tm_campaign=20260127

‘We Really Need Help’: Trump’s Plan to Fast-Track Rebuilding Fire-Ravaged L.A. Brings Victims Relief

President Donald Trump is helping Californians in Los Angeles recover faster from the wildfires that devastated their communities a year ago.

The president on Friday signed an executive order to speed up the rebuilding process after the Pacific Palisades and Eaton fires tore through the area, the New York Post reported Tuesday.

The fires burned down countless homes and left thousands of people with no place to go. One woman told ABC 11 on the one-year anniversary of the devastating event, “It was like being in a zombie apocalypse movie is what I felt like.”

Thirty-one people died as a result of the fires, the outlet noted:

In the wake of the lingering devastation, President Trump, who is a former real estate developer, is taking action.

According to the Post, Trump said Friday, “I want to see if we can take over the city and state and just give the people their permits they want to build.”

He also laid blame at the feet of Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA) and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass (D) when it came to the slow rebuilding process. The outlet said over 16,000 buildings were destroyed but officials have issued a mere 2,600 construction permits.

The text of the executive order (EO) read:

One year ago, the California State and Los Angeles city and county governments failed to contain wildfires that ravaged Los Angeles and consumed nearly 40,000 acres of homes and businesses. The State and local governments failed to engage in responsible forest management systems out of a misguided commitment to naturalist and climate policies, which increased the severity of the fires.

The EO also said debris removal did not begin until the Trump administration initiated its swift removal so community members could begin recovering safely.

The EO noted the families and small businesses in the area were living in a “nightmare of delay, uncertainty, and bureaucratic malaise” while they remained displaced and as officials delayed or prevented reconstruction.

“It is the policy of my Administration that federally funded reconstruction projects for homes and businesses in the wildfire-impacted neighborhoods of the Pacific Palisades and Eaton Canyon areas proceed with the maximum speed consistent with public safety, and that Federal assistance not be frustrated by unnecessary, duplicative, or obstructive permitting requirements that prevent families and businesses from rebuilding,” the EO stated.

Pacific Palisades resident Jessica Rogers lost everything in the devastating fires. When she learned about the federal government’s plan to help rebuild, she said, “We’re so desperate. We really need the help. We cannot do this on our own. Our state’s not capable, our city’s not capable, this is not something that requires a village, it requires the nation. We need our federal government to come in.”

In January 2025, Newsom signed an EO to suspend regulations that would impede rebuilding, per Breitbart News.

“Newsom implementing such extreme measures to enable the rebuilding of homes only further illustrates the immense damage caused by the wildfires, which carry an estimated $135 billion price tag, though it will likely increase with more assessment,” the outlet said.

However, over 1,000 fire victims gathered in the fire-ravaged area on the one-year anniversary of the tragedy to accuse Newsom and Bass of negligence during the tragedy that took so much from them, Breitbart News reported.

“As reported by numerous outlets, the failures included useless fire hydrants, brush not maintained, dry local reservoirs, fire trucks out of service, and no staging of fire crews in anticipation of the high winds that had been predicted for days,” the article read, adding, “Most notably, criticism also included the failure of fire officials to monitor and completely extinguish an arson fire on state land a week before winds apparently reignited it and caused the January 7, 2025, blaze that spread into Malibu and other parts of the west side.”




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And now the LA Times reports only 13% of the homes destroyed have been issued building permits.

13%.

That is about 1,000 properties of the 13,000+ destroyed.

And that is issued the permit; it does not mean construction has begun.


That math ain’t mathin’…


1000 of 13,000 would be about 7.7%

13% of 13,000 would be 1690.


End of the day whichever one, it is abysmal.






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Check out LA Mayor Candidate Spencer Pratts new political ad, pretty good, now lets see if LA residents buy into it...

https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/2049570743189447067

 
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'An Epic Madness Burns In The Minds of Californians...'

Authored by James Howard Kunstler,

The California Death Trip

“History records no pity for parties that choose purity over competence, vengeance over vision, pathology over pragmatism. The long night is not coming. It is here. . . . ”
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The Pacific Palisades fire ignited on January 7, 2025, in the very last days of the “Joe Biden” fake presidency.

6,837 total buildings destroyed plus about 1,000 damaged.

The Altadena fire across town in Eaton Canyon was arguably worse: 9,418 buildings destroyed.

A Year After the LA Fires

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass was in Ghana at the time to attend the inauguration of president John Dramani Mahama, part of a small U.S. presidential delegation sent by the “Biden” administration.

Deputy Mayor for Public Safety, Brian Williams, overseer of the Police and Fire Departments, was on administrative leave at the time due to an alleged bomb threat against City Hall that he reportedly made in September / October 2024. The FBI raided his house that December, and in 2025 he copped a plea deal (guilty) to making threats involving fire and explosives. So, he was out of action during the fires.

There you have the rectified essence of how the Democratic Party operates in America’s biggest state.

Is it not astonishing that Karen Bass is running for reelection? How could she possibly be forgiven?

A large number of people employed in the movie business got burned out of their homes in the fires, and then city and state regulatory nonsense prevented them from rebuilding — on top of insurance company hocus-pocus that left families financially wrecked.

Is it a surprise that the city’s flagship industry is dying now (film production down 32-percent on a five-year average)?

What is LA without Hollywood?

And yet the show-biz celebs are still coming out to pimp for Democratic Party politicians. This is the kind of thing that forces you to conclude that an epic madness burns as hotly through the minds of Californians as the fires that ripped through the canyons in 2025. I know from personal experience as a college theater major that actors can be exceptionally stupid, but that can’t wholly account for what we’re seeing.

Wednesday’s primary debates had these villains on florid display. Because LA’s ranked-choice mayoral primary race styles itself “non-partisan,” candidate Spencer Pratt (a registered Republican) was on-hand for the debate. When the subject of LA’s cataclysmic homelessness came up, drug addicts living (if you can call it that) in wretched, filthy encampments all over the public space of the city, Mayor Bass bragged that she’d significantly reduced the problem, which is obviously and mendaciously untrue. LA City Council member Nithya Raman, who labels herself “progressive,” bragged on putting the homeless into shelters (i.e., motel rooms at $100-K per person per year.)

Spencer Pratt attempted to inject a little reality into the discussion about putting the homeless into homes: “No matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth, they are on fentanyl. The DEA [Drug Enforcement Agency] statistic says 93-percent of this is a drug addiction problem. These people do not want a bed — they want fentanyl or super meth.”

Pratt is currently running third in the polls. In ranked-choice voting, the top two winners in the primary will face off in the November election. Currently Bass is polling in the lead and Nithya Raman is running second. If the numbers stay that way, the winner in November could finish Los Angeles off. Blade Runner, here we come.

But there’s still a chance that Spencer Pratt might place well in the June 2 primary just as Golden Tempo shot from dead last to win the Kentucky Derby last week.

The seductions of the Marxist race hustle have worn a little thin, even for Angelenos. Karen Bass looks increasingly ridiculous grinning about her abject failures, which Mr. Pratt lays out relentlessly in plain talk. His reality-testing seems to be getting some minds right, gaining real traction. Nithya Raman has the charisma of a mung bean.

The gubernatorial debate was equally edifying, especially the spectacle of Democratic Candidates Katie Porter’s and billionaire Tom Steyer’s rousing lack of self-awareness. Ms. Porter, renowned for dumping a pot of steaming mashed potatoes over her ex-husband’s head, and for her crotchety way with the (friendly) news media and her own staff, made the astounding statement that “the public servants we have are focused on doing their job, which is not cooperating with the federal immigration authorities.” That’s their job? Hmmmm. Mr. Steyer went further and said he would arrest ICE agents going about their business. You think . . .? (I would think that a Governor Steyer would find himself arrested by the feds for attempting such a stunt.)

The governor’s race is also a rank-choice contest. So, Republican Steve Hilton was on-hand to break the reality-optional spell that shrouded the stage like a poisonous miasma. After several Democrats made a show of deploring the grotesque homeless druggie encampments from Nob Hill to MacArthur Park, Mr. Hilton said “[They] talk as if we’re in some parallel universe where Democrats haven’t been running the state for the last sixteen years.” He shares the lead in the polls in the large field at 18-percent with Xavier Becerra, who was “Joe Biden’s” Secretary of Health and Human Services, meaning, he presided over the vaxx mandates and lockdowns of the Covid operation.

California is ground zero for the death dance of the Democratic Party. Symptoms are popping up all over the country, of course. Just this week, the FBI raided the headquarters of Virginia State Senator pro tempore L. Louise Lucas (D-Portsmouth) — and also raided the marijuana shop she co-owns next door to her HQ. The SCOTUS decision on Congressional redistricting has thrown many states’ Democratic Party outposts into a fugue of terror as they stand to lose as many as a dozen seats in Congress. DOJ prosecutions are underway against prominent Democrats in Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida. Many of their heroes could go to prison. Panic has set in. The Democratic Party as we know it these days is not long for this world.

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...s-minds-californians



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“Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass withdrew from a crucial mayoral debate just days after a televised forum that viewers felt Spencer Pratt had handily won.

Bass pulled out of a Los Angeles mayoral candidate forum scheduled for May 13 that was set to air on FOX 11, according to a statement released Saturday by the organizers.

Bass' withdrawal came shortly after Pratt was praised for his performance against Bass and Nithya Raman, a local lawmaker who is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, during a televised debate on Wednesday. …”

https://mol.im/a/15805065



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