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Fires Scorch over 3,000 Acres In Los Angeles Area
January 09, 2025, 11:08 PM
sigmonkeyFires Scorch over 3,000 Acres In Los Angeles Area
I do believe this may be where the drive to push this vile and disgusting "Alphabet Soul Cancer" which has metastasized across this nation into the Abyss, will have gained traction.
(Or "dead hooked", in drag racing parlance...)
When the time comes, and most all will know it, push back with all you have to bear.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! January 09, 2025, 11:30 PM
corsairquote:
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“We had a tremendous demand on our system in the Palisades. We pushed the system to the extreme,” Quiñones said Wednesday morning. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”
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Before the fire, all 114 tanks that supply the city water infrastructure were completely filled.
Quiñones said that the hydrants in the Palisades rely on three large water tanks with about 1 million gallons each. The first ran dry at 4:45 p.m. Tuesday; the second at 8:30 p.m.; and the third was dry at 3 a.m. Wednesday.
“Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills in the Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used. ... we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,” she said. “So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in a trunk line.”
In other words, the demand for water at lower elevations was hampering the ability to refill the tanks located at higher elevations. Because of the ongoing fire, DWP crews also faced difficulty accessing its pump stations, which are used to move water up to the tanks.
The utility on Wednesday was sending 20 tankers with water to support firefighters in the Palisades, and the tankers were having to reload at other distant locations.
“We are constantly moving that water to the fire department to get them as much water as we can,” Quiñones said.
It’s unclear how widespread the hydrant issues were. In November, the lack of water from hydrants hurt the effort to combat the Mountain fire in Ventura County, when two water pumps became inactive, slowing the process to deliver hillside water.
Caruso, who also ran unsuccessfully for mayor in 2022, contended that the challenges were avoidable.
“This is a window into a systemic problem of the city — not only of mismanagement, but our infrastructure is old,” Caruso said.
January 09, 2025, 11:43 PM
darthfusterWere any Delta Smelt harmed?
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier January 10, 2025, 12:00 AM
CPD SIGquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Para, I look at this and all I can think of is
"Soup Sandwich"
DEI =
Didn't
Earn
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January 10, 2025, 05:46 AM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
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Originally posted by corsair:
Huh?
You do understand this is a urban fire, not a wilderness/wildland fire...
This is not very accurate; ... pluck out the houses and you have a wilderness area. ... All of these locations are like wilderness areas if you took out the houses.
Yes, if you take out all of the things that make an urban area urban, you'd be left with wilderness.
January 10, 2025, 05:54 AM
Mars_AttacksI don't get the stupid bickering over whether it's urban or wilderness.
Houses are made of wood, just like witches. That's why they burn or float.
The embers from the wilderness area are dropping down on the wood structures and setting them ablaze. As for the urban areas, I do believe lots of petroleum based items are used for the roofing material. It's like witches, too. You heap enough embers on a tar roof and it's going to burn.
The wind has been so strong, it's been easy for the embers to be carried quite a long distance. The more the fire spreads, the more updraft there is to carry in more air to fan the fires.
Yet there is petty myopic bickering over stupid shit.
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January 10, 2025, 07:10 AM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
I don't get the stupid bickering over whether it's urban or wilderness.
Houses are made of wood, just like witches. That's why they burn or float.
The embers from the wilderness area are dropping down on the wood structures and setting them ablaze. As for the urban areas, I do believe lots of petroleum based items are used for the roofing material. It's like witches, too. You heap enough embers on a tar roof and it's going to burn.
The wind has been so strong, it's been easy for the embers to be carried quite a long distance. The more the fire spreads, the more updraft there is to carry in more air to fan the fires.
Yet there is petty myopic bickering over stupid shit.
If we eliminated the myopic posts, then there wouldn’t be much of a thread left.
It’s not wildfire, it’s worse. It’s a man made catastrophe no different than building cities below sea level, in earthquake zones, in hurricane prone areas, next to volcanoes, etc.
In the case of these urban fires, the urban infrastructure is incapable of mitigating the risk. Much of the thread seems to be focused on who didn’t do what. This problem was caused by what people did do: they built house stacked next to each other out of poor materials in an area not suited for it and didn’t properly plan for the inevitable.
I say this as a person who bought a house in a flood zone and hurricane prone area. I came close to losing my house twice this year because of this. I take full responsibility for it. There’s no politicians to blame, no building inspectors, emergency services providers, etc., just me.
It’s gut wrenching and heartbreaking to lose your stuff. I hope people take personal responsibility to heart going forward.
January 10, 2025, 07:13 AM
ScreamingCockatooThis will all be blamed on climate change and w're to blame for this.
Not mismanagement.
Everything I've seen so far on this fire is one big goddamn clown show.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
January 10, 2025, 07:20 AM
bdylanThey will absolutely conclude that this is attributable to climate change. The emotions from this will result in more zealous climate warriors.. look for more bizarre legislation to take advantage of the coming propaganda.
January 10, 2025, 07:43 AM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
Joe Rogan’s chilling LA wildfire prediction resurfaces
As previously posted on page 3.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor January 10, 2025, 07:54 AM
ChuckFinleyquote:
In the case of these urban fires, the urban infrastructure is incapable of mitigating the risk. Much of the thread seems to be focused on who didn’t do what. This problem was caused by what people did do: they built house stacked next to each other out of poor materials in an area not suited for it and didn’t properly plan for the inevitable.
100% spot on. Former Southern California resident. Thus far where we elected to live has remained fine, but there is nothing magical about this, as the winds and embers can affect anywhere in the area.
Southern California is massively overbuilt for what the area can naturally sustain and there has been no consistent vision nor diligent efforts to mitigate the risks in this level of development or address contingencies.
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January 10, 2025, 08:42 AM
downtownvIronically CBS News reported P Diddy's, Mansion of Horrors burnt to the ground, along with all that evidence that remained....
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January 10, 2025, 08:48 AM
229DAKquote:
Southern California is massively overbuilt for what the area can naturally sustain and there has been no consistent vision nor diligent efforts to mitigate the risks in this level of development or address contingencies.
Well, as long as the mayor and governor get their tax money from all those crammed-in homeowners and businesses, who cares? I assume these poor, burnt-out people will still get charged later in the year for at least the value of the property. Politicians gotta get their money.
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January 10, 2025, 08:50 AM
ranger312Meet the people in charge of LA’s fire response.
All of them lesbians named Kristin.
Kristina Crowley - First LGBTQ Fire Chief LAFD.
Salary: $439,722
Kristina Kepner - First Lesbian Assistant Chief LAFD.
Salary: $264,468
Kristine Larson - First black lesbian Equity Bureau Chief LAFD.
Salary: $399,000
How does the "Equity Bureau Chief" make almost twice as much money as the Assistant Chief?
January 10, 2025, 08:55 AM
oddballquote:
Let's see his face:
I spoke to my sister last night and she confirmed that two houses we lived in as children, both rentals, were destroyed, the two neighborhoods gone, both maybe 1/2 mile away from the San Gabriel Mountains. Also our elementary school was destroyed. And our first home my dad bought in Pasadena, also 1/2 mile away from the mountains, was spared, but houses in the next block were burned down. I read this morning that the Eaton Fire destroyed 4000 structures.
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January 10, 2025, 09:02 AM
ElToro^^ Vigilance committees of private citizens used used to hang alleged arsonists like this when caught red handed. Dude should feel lucky he was handed over to the cops.
A silver lining may be red pilled celebrities who have a platform like Adam carolla, Jillian Michaels, Justine Bateman and James woods, et. al. and may bring enough attention to what criminals some of these politicians are. Nero newsom, fish faced bass etc.
January 10, 2025, 09:10 AM
downtownvquote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Ironically CBS News reported P Diddy's, Mansion of Horrors burnt to the ground, along with all that evidence that remained....
There seems to be some doubt in the CBS Broadcast report so, who knows.
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