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Originally posted by sjtill:
Thanks for the post above.
Wife and I have been saying these guys are as yet the unsung heroes of the fires.

I agree 100%. In high school my best friend's father owned a flying service (Reeder Flying Service, Twin Falls, ID) that leased "staffed" helicopters to both the BLM and and US Forest Service for fighting fires. All pilots were Vietnam Vets and had balls of steel. Some of the drops I watched them make made me cringe, I was sure they were going to crash and die. They lost more than one pilot before I moved on to college. FYI, Reeder Flying service has long since been bought out by local businessmen. One more FYI, Vietnam helicopter pilots could be somewhat jaded

Tim Sheehy is the junior Senator from Montana. He’s an Annapolis graduate, a former Navy SEAL TL, and after leaving the Navy, a businessman who founded a wildland firefighting company, Bridger Aerospace, and flew a “Super Scooper” water bomber himself.

I think you will find this discussion interesting. Most of the discussion revolves around wildland firefighting, the LA fires, fire policy at all levels, and the men and women who put their lives on the line—whose treatment, support, and pay level, is so vastly different from urban, structural fire fighting—wildland firefighters.

Available on Spotify and YT, I suppose elsewhere

quote:

Originally posted by sjtill:
Thanks for the post above.
Wife and I have been saying these guys are as yet the unsung heroes of the fires.

Not to get into a contest of who's better, while the airplanes and helo guys get a lot of attention and love (it's really impressive), the hard work is being done by the hand crews. They're the ones actually cutting the lines and dealing with the fires head-on, hauling hoses & tools while getting up & over the crazy terrain and aggressive vegetation. The news and social really don't get to accompany them since the conditions are always changing and terrain is just too tough.

No doubt. The boots on the ground are the true unsung heroes.

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
No doubt. The boots on the ground are the true unsung heroes.

They are all heroes. Every freaking one of them put their asses on the line. Getting back to the helicopter thing and my experience with my buddies flying service. The helicopters would load ground crews up and drop them off in unbelievable places, ledges with the rotors feet away from trees or rocks. A gust of wind and they all die. I watched two drop offs like that from a spotter plane. The guys dropped off were not guaranteed to be picked back up if weather conditions changed. Then the helos and air tankers started dropping retardant so the ground crew could operate. None of this was happening in calm winds either. The team work was unreal.

^^^^^^^^

There is a reason the CIA recruited people from the wildfire service to form China Air Service and later Air America.

Those people are phenomenally capable, plus they were as mad as hatters.

California, Jesus.

If it doesn't rain, they get wildfires. If it does rain, they get mudslides.

Then throw in an occasional earthquake or two.

But then it's all about the sunshine. It's the land of freakin' sunshine opportunity.

Yep, today starts the forecast of heavy rain in L.A. County, the San Gabriel Valley area expected to get hit also. And of course with vegetation burned into oblivion, mudslides will likely result in areas such as Malibu and Altadena.

so what is Mayor Dum Bass going to do about the weather?

If this doesn't scare the ever livin' daylights out of these property owners...



... they are naive in the extreme.

ETA:

Why are they hunting for radiation?

They should focus on dental clinics and urgent care locations that may have had an X-ray machine on site.

And they wouldn’t be walking around dressed like that

Smoke detectors have a tiny amount Americium in them. TINY.

wall off the entire country, and lets get rid of smoke detectors everywhere

Google Malibu radiation. This is not the first time wildfires have released radiation in the area. Included are toxic waste sites, and a research facility that experienced a “partial meltdown” in 1959 that contaminated the soil and the combination of ground cover going bye bye and strong winds is likely making carcinogenic particles airborne.

The leftist paradise, huh? Article is from 2018 but I assume holds true to this day given the long half life of radioactive compounds.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/wild...WQnYEV3gz6Rfc7FcMiYN

I posted the full-video of this clown on p19 now, Dore has watched it and is taking his shots. His commentary on this plan, along with the passing of SB9 is especially poignant.

Didn’t know about the radiation levels. I thought they were just trying to scare people.

California citizens being steamrolled by EPA and DTSC.

Bunch of EPA employees are about to get fired.

They get enough push-back, they'll probably dump it in El Monte or, someplace further like San Bernardino or, Victorville. Doesn't Irwindale have a couple of open-pit, empty spots...where the Raider's tried to move to?