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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
For those recommending American Standard, I know of no company in Central Florida that offers that product. Trane is the American Standard offering here.

There are 3 American Standard air conditioner dealers listed for 32801 (Orlando), they all have 4.6 stars or better on google reviews, I just picked a random Orlando zip code. Here's the American Standard dealer locator.

https://www.americanstandardai...ind-your-dealer.html

And all of them will offer Trane equipment, which is the same company. Trane is huge in Central Florida. When I went shopping equipment, I found the American Standard references in company ads, but in every case, they offered me Trane equipment.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
For those recommending American Standard, I know of no company in Central Florida that offers that product. Trane is the American Standard offering here.

There are 3 American Standard air conditioner dealers listed for 32801 (Orlando), they all have 4.6 stars or better on google reviews, I just picked a random Orlando zip code. Here's the American Standard dealer locator.

https://www.americanstandardai...ind-your-dealer.html

And all of them will offer Trane equipment, which is the same company. Trane is huge in Central Florida. When I went shopping equipment, I found the American Standard references in company ads, but in every case, they offered me Trane equipment.

There's more profit margin selling a Trane instead of a American Standard, that's why.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
For those recommending American Standard, I know of no company in Central Florida that offers that product. Trane is the American Standard offering here.

There are 3 American Standard air conditioner dealers listed for 32801 (Orlando), they all have 4.6 stars or better on google reviews, I just picked a random Orlando zip code. Here's the American Standard dealer locator.

https://www.americanstandardai...ind-your-dealer.html

And all of them will offer Trane equipment, which is the same company. Trane is huge in Central Florida. When I went shopping equipment, I found the American Standard references in company ads, but in every case, they offered me Trane equipment.

There's more profit margin selling a Trane instead of a American Standard, that's why.

Perhaps, but as I noted in my longer post, when you peel the skin off all the brands, what you find is virtually the same components (with the exception of Carrier). Construction and installation quality, coupled with warranty support is more important than brand name in my book, and Trane is more expensive than Goodman while sharing the same warranty and components.

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...but the construction, materials, and execution is not as good.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
...but the construction, materials, and execution is not as good.

And I'll tell you what I told the salesman from one company who tried to sell me on that concept....If that's the case, why is the warranty on his superior equipment the same as the warranty on the inferior equipment? If its better constructed with better materials, shouldn't it offer a better warranty?

When you do a lot of reading online and accumulate the data, Goodman rates very well overall, and provides excellent value.

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I bought a Goodman 14.5 SEER single speed system. I purchased that system myself from an internet wholesaler (Budget AC Supply in Davenport, essentially Haines City), and my father picked it up for me on his way back from Tampa (they slid it into his truck with their forklift). Condenser, air handler, 10kw heat strip, UV light (a throw in) ran ~$2500. Then I hired a guy who works for a local AC company to come in on a Saturday to install it for me (ran ~$1500 which included the Ecobee 3 thermostat I added). And yes, he is licensed to do AC work, but ‘no’ I can’t refer him to you as he has asked me not to refer him to others. I only had access to him because he’d done service work for me previously through his full-time job. So I was good to go for ~$3800. I got quotes ranging from $6k to $8k using the same Goodman equipment, and north of $10k for Carrier/Bryant equipment, just to add a bit of perspective.

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I have been hearing rumblings that the current 410A refigerant will be phased out for yet another refrigerant. This might impact putting a whole lot of money in a new system if this is true.

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R410a is not being banned, it is being drawn down. It will be available until 2030

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I looked at bigdeal's post, in detail:

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I bought a Goodman 14.5 SEER single speed system. I purchased that system myself from an internet wholesaler (Budget AC Supply in Davenport, essentially Haines City), and my father picked it up for me on his way back from Tampa (they slid it into his truck with their forklift). Condenser, air handler, 10kw heat strip, UV light (a throw in) ran ~$2500. Then I hired a guy who works for a local AC company to come in on a Saturday to install it for me (ran ~$1500 which included the Ecobee 3 thermostat I added). And yes, he is licensed to do AC work, but ‘no’ I can’t refer him to you as he has asked me not to refer him to others. I only had access to him because he’d done service work for me previously through his full-time job. So I was good to go for ~$3800. I got quotes ranging from $6k to $8k using the same Goodman equipment, and north of $10k for Carrier/Bryant equipment, just to add a bit of perspective.

I found a small (two-man) local company, licensed, etc., that will do the job for me.

Three-ton Goodman heat pump system, 16 SEER model, the whole package including a new programmable thermostat, delivery, installation, etc., for $4,377.00. They had originally quoted the 14.5 SEER unit for $4,200.00, but I figured that $177.00 was a very reasonable upcharge to go to the 16 SEER unit. Based on the ten year warranty, the extra cost is less than $1.50 / month, which should easily be recovered in reduced electric power consumption. Actually, I fully expect more than ten years from this system, so the monthly cost difference for the 16 SEER will be even less than $1.50

Installation is scheduled for Thursday, day after tomorrow.

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Glad you found a deal, I was going to suggest checking with Costco, since you shop there, they have a deal with Lennox...

Also with a 1500 sq foot home wonder if those split units would work for you since most folks without kids home use maybe 3 or 4 rooms in the house 90% of the time..

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with a 1500 sq foot home wonder if those split units would work for you since most folks without kids home use maybe 3 or 4 rooms in the house 90% of the time

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

That's not bad pricing at all for an all inclusive install for what you're getting. You can actually save as much if not more money on energy savings if you make full use of that programmable thermostat. Which stat did you get? Honeywell or something else?