Yes, It would be awesome if all of the oil and gas companies issued a date as to when they were pulling out of Vermont.

The best way to get rid of a law is to enforce it exactly as it is written.

There is a lot of peer reviewed science showing that there are strong effects on climate, not at all accounted for in the climate change models, from the earth's magnetic field, sun activity (other than the light irradiance), and the passage of our solar system through the galactic plane.

Basically as I understand it, charged particles and magnetic fields have enormous effects on both weather and climate. Some of these effects are on a short time scale such as the sun spot cycle of 11 years. Some are on a 6,000 and 12,000 year cycle.

Climate = natural factors + human causes. Since the models ignore the very strong natural factors mentioned above, those effects get wrongly attributed to human causes.

We know the CO2 studies just don't work properly to explain climate history, and I think it is easily explained.

I believe in anthropogenic solar eclipses. They’ll keep happening unless we throw more virgins into the volcano. We’re doomed with so few virgins left….

It's pretty clear that weather patterns have changed over the last decade or so, becoming more (for lack of a better term) "extreme". I've noticed a general, gradual warming trend over the last 40 years.

But whether it's due to pollution, CO2, magnetic fields, sunspots (we are in the middle of a pretty active sunspot cycle right now), a long term assault by some extraterrestrial species, or just the final death throes of the last ice age, I don't think anybody really knows.

I do believe that whatever the cause is, it's being used by the New World Order types (with the usual suspect greenies riding on their coattails) as a pretext to try to consolidate their influence on all nations.

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Originally posted by Expert308:
It's pretty clear that weather patterns have changed over the last decade or so, becoming more (for lack of a better term) "extreme". I've noticed a general, gradual warming trend over the last 40 years.

With all due respect, that's utter horseshit.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Expert308:
It's pretty clear that weather patterns have changed over the last decade or so, becoming more (for lack of a better term) "extreme". I've noticed a general, gradual warming trend over the last 40 years.

With all due respect, that's utter horseshit.

Maybe……

I’ll report back in November if my house still stands and how impacts were since I live outside levees “fish bowl” and have upfront and personal high water and wind experiences

I’ve had TS bring water in higher than a Cat IV. It’s a fun dance between staying home or to go. I’ve never left for 13 yrs outside New Orleans “fishbowl” Zeta came right over the house, I stood in my shop with a beer, Ida put 18” under the house. Issac put 4ft water under the house. Katrina put 19ft

Who knows. I’m prepared regardless. Just put last 5g can in the vehicle last week from last year

It’s June 1. Time to refill 20 jerry cans and assess supplies. It’s an annual thing. Nothing to get crazed/ paranoid about

I’ve got 300 ft waterfront, desalinization, crabs and fish for protein. More pasta than my wife wants around

Good news from Sweden:

They have formally abandoned the Net Zero goals and embracing nuclear power, as has Finland.
If the UK were smart, they would do the same.
The article linked is interesting, contains recommendations about a natural gas-to nuclear transition, which would make sense for the UK.
Also points out that electricity prices dropped dramatically in Finland with the start-up of their new nuclear plant.

Link

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Originally posted by Expert308:
It's pretty clear that weather patterns have changed over the last decade or so, becoming more (for lack of a better term) "extreme". I've noticed a general, gradual warming trend over the last 40 years.

But whether it's due to pollution, CO2, magnetic fields, sunspots (we are in the middle of a pretty active sunspot cycle right now), a long term assault by some extraterrestrial species, or just the final death throes of the last ice age, I don't think anybody really knows.

I do believe that whatever the cause is, it's being used by the New World Order types (with the usual suspect greenies riding on their coattails) as a pretext to try to consolidate their influence on all nations.

Social Media hysteria.

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Originally posted by snwghst:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Expert308:
It's pretty clear that weather patterns have changed over the last decade or so, becoming more (for lack of a better term) "extreme". I've noticed a general, gradual warming trend over the last 40 years.

With all due respect, that's utter horseshit.

Maybe……

I’ll report back in November if my house still stands and how impacts were since I live outside levees “fish bowl” and have upfront and personal high water and wind experiences

I’ve had TS bring water in higher than a Cat IV. It’s a fun dance between staying home or to go. I’ve never left for 13 yrs outside New Orleans “fishbowl” Zeta came right over the house, I stood in my shop with a beer, Ida put 18” under the house. Issac put 4ft water under the house. Katrina put 19ft

Who knows. I’m prepared regardless. Just put last 5g can in the vehicle last week from last year

It’s June 1. Time to refill 20 jerry cans and assess supplies. It’s an annual thing. Nothing to get crazed/ paranoid about

I’ve got 300 ft waterfront, desalinization, crabs and fish for protein. More pasta than my wife wants around

Are you saying that it's pretty clear there is a warming trend and more intense storms because you live below sea level? I don't see the correlation.

Identifying or discovering shit is way over rated.

I discovered a a sliver in my right thumb.

Big effen deal.
Columbus discovered a place where other people lived
Same thing.


You want to discover, invent or identity something ?


Get people to make good decisions.

Two thousand years of bad decision making is what got us here.


Climate change might be the least news worthy subject since " Saturn has moons"

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I believe the climate changes. I believe humans effect climate change. I don't believe we effect it as much as some people do. I believe we should do what is practical to cut down on greenhouse gases in a cost effective way. I also believe that even if we cut down it doesn't matter because of India and China, there is zero chance they will cut down and that is where you might realize some reductions.

Bingo!!! My thoughts exactly. Fuels run the world's economy. Third world countries cannot progress without industry. The trick will be to encourage them to adhere to pollution control measures. If they don't, what then??? WW III??? Tough call.

hoax

Nope.

RMD

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Originally posted by MMSIG229:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I believe the climate changes. I believe humans effect climate change. I don't believe we effect it as much as some people do. I believe we should do what is practical to cut down on greenhouse gases in a cost effective way. I also believe that even if we cut down it doesn't matter because of India and China, there is zero chance they will cut down and that is where you might realize some reductions.

Bingo!!! My thoughts exactly. Fuels run the world's economy. Third world countries cannot progress without industry. The trick will be to encourage them to adhere to pollution control measures. If they don't, what then??? WW III??? Tough call.

When the politicians here come after your money to " Fight climate change " , they say we need to be an example to the rest of the world , blah , blah . I don't even know how to respond to that other than laugh in their face .

Never have. Never will. It’s a scam to control and get rich.

Find yourself in the path of a tornado and ask whether or not man has any control whatsoever over nature. Just a few weeks ago we were awestruck at the powerful solar storm and subsequent aurora seen at all latitudes. Imagine the power needed for that to happen...93,000,000 miles away. Short of effecting a full-on nuclear winter, man does not, has not, and never will, do anything that will have consequence on the climate as a whole. It is the height of arrogance to think that we do or can. Mother Nature is going to do what Mother Nature is going to do, and has done, since the day this rock started spinning around the sun and we have no say in it whatsoever. We're just along for the ride.

No, "climate change", "global warming", or whatever they choose to call it, is nothing more than a means to control people and to make grifters (looking at you algore) rich.

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The climate changes on this planet every hour. We have very little impact on it.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Expert308:
It's pretty clear that weather patterns have changed over the last decade or so, becoming more (for lack of a better term) "extreme". I've noticed a general, gradual warming trend over the last 40 years.

With all due respect, that's utter horseshit.

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Originally posted by bcereuss:
Social Media hysteria.

Maybe where you live (Wasatch mountains I believe?) it's different. I grew up in north central Montana 40 miles from Canada, and southern Idaho through HS and college. After that I moved out to Portland and lived there for just shy of 45 years before returning to Idaho last year. In all three areas there has been a definite warming trend. Warmer summers, milder winters. Look it up. Storms are becoming (slightly) more severe and more frequent. Look it up. Wildfires, same thing.

I'm not hysterical about anything. I don't do social media, any of it. I don't have a poster of Greta on my wall. Climate changes are a fact. It's been changing for four and a half billion years, and what we're seeing lately is just the latest iteration of that. I quoted "extreme" to indicate that that's what "they" would have us believe and that I don't buy that it's as bad as they make it out to be. I thought that was clear, but maybe not. Are the changes we're seeing now caused by human actions? I don't know. Like I said, I don't think anybody knows. But to claim that I'm full of horseshit, or hysterical just for noting them, is just that: horseshit.

Climate does change over eons, with or without man. The earth has had more Co2, and been both hotter and colder before modern man made factories and burned oil.

To use the term climate change to enable costly policy for net zero or green energy spending is just pure political grift. We had an ice age, and now we don't, and even Al Gore and John Kerry together didn't do that.

The rest of this is weather.

This is a five year old thread, according to Al and Greata shouldn't we be dead now?