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One crew member dies, another hospitalized after Alec Baldwin shoots two people on set of his film

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January 28, 2023, 12:51 PM
gearhounds
One crew member dies, another hospitalized after Alec Baldwin shoots two people on set of his film





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January 28, 2023, 03:08 PM
parabellum
Actually, Wayne Gretzky said that, but this version is far funnier. Wink
January 28, 2023, 04:09 PM
parabellum
How about this?

Right now, TCM is airing The Fastest Gun Alive, a 1956 Western starring Glenn Ford. Ford plays a man who conceals his skill with a Peacemaker until the town is threatened by a gang of criminals. Ford then reveals to the townspeople his skill with a handgun and he is subsequently forced into a gunfight with one of the gang.

Well, here's a bit of trivia about the film from IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0...rivia?item=tr3473227

In a TCM introduction of another Glenn Ford film, Alec Baldwin confessed his admiration for Glenn Ford's performance in this movie. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0...rivia?item=tr3473227

Added to that is this irony from the Wikipedia page on the film:

"Later, while everyone is in church, where they have taken an oath not to tell George's (Glenn Ford) secret, Harold rides into town. A local boy tells him about George's display of gun skill. Though he is on the run—and over the objections of his fellow bank robbers, Taylor Swope (John Dehner) and Dink Wells (Noah Beery Jr.), who just want to escape the law—Harold is intent to remain in town until he can see this George Temple face-to-face.

Harold finds out that the "fast gun" is in the church. He sends Swope there to call him out. When the townspeople refuse to send out "the man who shot two silver dollars at the same time", Harold gives an order to Dink to find some kerosene and pour it everywhere. He then instructs Swope to deliver a message to the people in the church that if their fast gun does not come out in five minutes, Vinnie and his men will burn down the whole town."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...stest_Gun_Alive#Plot

The Rust shooting took place in a church.
January 28, 2023, 04:41 PM
YooperSigs
Its interesting that Baldwin was impressed with Glenn Ford. Of all the Hollywood types during the popularity of the Western in the 1950s, Ford was very proficient with the SAA and was considered the "fastest gun in Hollywood". His draw is unique in that he uses a raised leather block mounted on the belt above the hammer. As he clears leather, he would cock the hammer against the block and get the shot off. Its hard to see this in action but there is another Ford western called Heaven with a Gun that better shows his rig and draw style. When it comes to the SAA, Ford is the real deal.


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January 28, 2023, 06:47 PM
Pyker
quote:
When it comes to the SAA, Ford is the real deal.



Sammy Davis Jr. was also a very highly regarded SAA gunhand.


January 28, 2023, 06:48 PM
thumperfbc
No booking photo yet? Let’s see the mug shot, Alec.
January 28, 2023, 06:54 PM
parabellum
I don't think we've ever seen a booking photo for that asshole. He's been arrested at least twice before. Where are those booking photos?

I wouldn't hold my breath. Baldwin is royalty, after all.
January 29, 2023, 07:54 AM
lastmanstanding
I do believe the quote " You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" was attributed to Gretzky's dad. I believe Wayne recalled his dad telling him this when he was being driven to hockey practice as Wayne sat in the back seat of the car. The Gretzky family story is very interesting. Wayne's dad was a driving force.

Regardless Baldwin is suffering his own fate. If he would let go of his ego he may one day end his suffering but he won't. Humility is a much more powerful force than ego.


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
January 29, 2023, 08:04 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Humility is a much more powerful force than ego.
That's something to ponder on this Sunday morning.
January 29, 2023, 11:15 AM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by thumperfbc:
No booking photo yet? Let’s see the mug shot, Alec.


I think in Alec’s case it’s called a smug shot.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 29, 2023, 11:34 AM
parabellum
It ain't just a river in Egypt.

Alec & Hilaria Baldwin Are 'Sick To Their Stomachs' Over Actor's Possible Prison Time
quote:
"The very thought of serving time in prison makes him and Hilaria sick to their stomachs," the source added of Baldwin and his wife, 39. "They can’t even imagine that scenario and are telling each other there’s no way on earth this can ultimately happen."
Even leftist Slate knows the truth:

Why Alec Baldwin Could Be Found Guilty
quote:
The prosecutors have decided that a gun requires a “duty of care”—the historic legal standard violated in negligence cases—that’s extremely high. They claim that, as the gun’s handler, Baldwin acted in egregious disregard of its potential dangers. In the law, this is referred to as “the neighbor principle”: We owe a duty to our neighbors, and in this case, Baldwin shot his neighbor, Halyna Hutchins. In the prosecutors’ view, it is his egregious gun-handling that caused this needless death, and that is at the center of the criminal charges. There is always an obligation on anyone who holds a gun and points it at someone else to check beforehand that the gun is unloaded.

January 29, 2023, 11:41 AM
Plugugly
It would be beyond hilarious if a felony conviction prevented him from using even a prop gun to make money from movies.
January 29, 2023, 11:44 AM
darthfuster
So they are sick about the idea of having to be separated from their spouse involuntarily, their children apart from one of their parents and the hardship that comes from it? Well, at least it would be temporary. His victims will have to suffer that loss for the rest of their lives…….but all the Baldwins can think about is themselves.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 29, 2023, 12:07 PM
ScreamingCockatoo
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Humility is a much more powerful force than ego.


Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity.





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January 29, 2023, 12:25 PM
Flash-LB
quote:
Originally posted by Plugugly:
It would be beyond hilarious if a felony conviction prevented him from using even a prop gun to make money from movies.


Unless he makes them outside of the U.S.
January 29, 2023, 12:36 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Plugugly:
It would be beyond hilarious if a felony conviction prevented him from using even a prop gun to make money from movies.


I don't think it stopped Mark Wahlberg.


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January 29, 2023, 01:46 PM
Greymann
Quote from Para's link:
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"Luke Nikas said in a statement. "Mr. Baldwin had no reason to believe there was a live bullet in the gun — or anywhere on the movie set."
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^^^ I read Law enforcement found a live round in Baldwin's gunbelt?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hol...utchins-rust-bullets

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January 29, 2023, 02:23 PM
bendable
As long as I find out that it cost him 25 mill in compensation,
12 mill in lawyers fees ananother25 mill in court fees.
Plus a felony conviction
.

I am good with him for ten days in jail , nine months house arrest, 24 years probation , 7000 hours of community service in New Mexico and no way to make money off the event through media, tv, books ,movies or vids.





Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.



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January 29, 2023, 02:28 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by Greymann:
Quote from Para's link:
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"Luke Nikas said in a statement. "Mr. Baldwin had no reason to believe there was a live bullet in the gun — or anywhere on the movie set."
Gun safety is not about "believing". Gun safety is about knowing and since he chose to point that pistol at another person, cock the hammer and pull the trigger, he had to know there were no live rounds in the cylinder.

That is the difference. You can't say "I believe this gun is unloaded, because someone else told me it is not loaded." They could be mistaken (which, in this case, they- the armoerer- were) or they could be lying. There's only one way to be certain, and Baldwin failed to do that.

I think as Baldwin's trial approaches, a plea deal may be offered and if offered, Baldwin should take it, but that means that he will have to stand in court and admit guilt to some degree. If he's foolish enough to let it go to trial when he had the chance to do otherwise, he knows the consequences might be dire.

Alec Baldwin knows he killed that woman. No one else did it, because even if he was handled a revolver with all six chambers loaded with live ammunition when he was told it was empty, he had no business pointing it at another person, cocking it and pulling the trigger.
January 29, 2023, 02:33 PM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by Pyker:

Sammy Davis Jr. was also a very highly regarded SAA


He had a good eye, too!


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