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January 20, 2023, 12:45 PM
vinnybass
One crew member dies, another hospitalized after Alec Baldwin shoots two people on set of his film
The armorer wasn't qualified to be in that gig.

The scary part of it was she didn't know enough to know she didn't know enough.

That in and of itself should have DQed her.

In my mind she's as much on the hook as Baldwin.


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January 20, 2023, 01:40 PM
Balzé Halzé
She's at best a dilettante, which is about the nicest thing I can say about her in regards to being a set armorer.


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January 20, 2023, 01:58 PM
jhe888
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by HRK:
This won't go to trial, he's going to be charged, plea a negligence charge or something of a lower level and pay a fine, do community service work, something of that ilk. Armorer will probably do the same, if she's got good lawyers, right now she has both the State of NM and Baldwin against her.

Baldwin just waited it out until he saw what he was going to be charged with, if anything, now he has a place to start negotiations from.

NM doesn't want to spend the money to try him they want to get it over with and look like they did something and didn't let a star get away with it.

Add in two years of it sitting out in the ether without much attention other than this thread, people have moved on, which is part of the process why it took so long, old news....


What is the actual evidence for these contentions?


Wasn't aware that one needed to provide evidence when offering an opinion.


That isn't an opinion. An opinion is "Steak is better than chicken." "Green is better than orange." Opinions are nearly purely subjective.

You are offering a theory or hypothesis to explain something that happened or may in the real world and why. Those kinds of statements do require some concrete support, at least if you want anyone to take you seriously. Evidence, if you will.



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January 20, 2023, 02:04 PM
HRK
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by HRK:
This won't go to trial, he's going to be charged, plea a negligence charge or something of a lower level and pay a fine, do community service work, something of that ilk. Armorer will probably do the same, if she's got good lawyers, right now she has both the State of NM and Baldwin against her.

Baldwin just waited it out until he saw what he was going to be charged with, if anything, now he has a place to start negotiations from.

NM doesn't want to spend the money to try him they want to get it over with and look like they did something and didn't let a star get away with it.

Add in two years of it sitting out in the ether without much attention other than this thread, people have moved on, which is part of the process why it took so long, old news....


What is the actual evidence for these contentions?


Wasn't aware that one needed to provide evidence when offering an opinion.


That isn't an opinion. An opinion is "Steak is better than chicken." "Green is better than orange." Opinions are nearly purely subjective.

You are offering a theory or hypothesis to explain something that happened or may in the real world and why. Those kinds of statements do require some concrete support, at least if you want anyone to take you seriously. Evidence, if you will.


Well, that's your opinion...
January 20, 2023, 02:07 PM
9mmepiphany
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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
...that mentioned that dummy rounds and blanks were sometimes made from live rounds. Perhaps this was true at one time, but no longer true...or maybe the practice is still sometimes used. If this is true,

What makes you think it isn't currently true or has ever been not true?

I'm referring more to dummy rounds as opposed to purpose made blanks...like the 5-in-1 blank cartridges



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January 20, 2023, 03:58 PM
kkina
Don't know if it's still being done, but kluged-up dummy rounds modded from live rounds is what killed Brandon Lee.


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January 20, 2023, 04:24 PM
jhe888
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by HRK:
This won't go to trial, he's going to be charged, plea a negligence charge or something of a lower level and pay a fine, do community service work, something of that ilk. Armorer will probably do the same, if she's got good lawyers, right now she has both the State of NM and Baldwin against her.

Baldwin just waited it out until he saw what he was going to be charged with, if anything, now he has a place to start negotiations from.

NM doesn't want to spend the money to try him they want to get it over with and look like they did something and didn't let a star get away with it.

Add in two years of it sitting out in the ether without much attention other than this thread, people have moved on, which is part of the process why it took so long, old news....


What is the actual evidence for these contentions?


Wasn't aware that one needed to provide evidence when offering an opinion.


That isn't an opinion. An opinion is "Steak is better than chicken." "Green is better than orange." Opinions are nearly purely subjective.

You are offering a theory or hypothesis to explain something that happened or may in the real world and why. Those kinds of statements do require some concrete support, at least if you want anyone to take you seriously. Evidence, if you will.


Well, that's your opinion...


Well played.



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January 20, 2023, 05:05 PM
YooperSigs
Lots of Hollyweird types are now springing up to defend Baldwin. Roll Eyes


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January 20, 2023, 05:33 PM
6guns
^^^ Hope they all eat crow!



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January 20, 2023, 05:41 PM
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January 20, 2023, 06:30 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Lots of Hollyweird types are now springing up to defend Baldwin. Roll Eyes
Is Gwyneth Paltrow one of them? If so, I'd dearly love to hear what this infinitely ignorant person has to say. Big Grin


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January 20, 2023, 08:32 PM
stiab
Experts believe that the public will not side with Baldwin so says one Hollywood public relations expert.

Schiffer told Insider that Baldwin has "hurt himself in unimaginable ways, especially with the public, who has, for some time, wondered how he ever allowed this to happen and who wondered why any adult would think it would be okay to aim a gun at anyone."

He said that moving forward, Baldwin should "keep his mouth shut" and said Baldwin's interviews since the shooting have not done him "any favors" because "he spent too much time positioning himself as the victim and deflecting responsibility for the tragedy."

https://www.insider.com/alec-b...ughter-charge-2023-1


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January 20, 2023, 10:10 PM
Audioholic
I think Gwyneth Paltrow will release a new scented candle in Alex Baldwin’s honor. She’s already done the scent of her vagina so this time she’ll do his…



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January 20, 2023, 10:13 PM
Gustofer
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Originally posted by Audioholic:
She’s already done the scent of her vagina so this time she’ll do his…

I didn't believe you. Now I'm kind of grossed out.


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January 21, 2023, 12:35 AM
911Boss
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by Audioholic:
She’s already done the scent of her vagina so this time she’ll do his…

I didn't believe you. Now I'm kind of grossed out.



She also steams it. Not sure if it is for the wrinkles or some other reason…

https://graziadaily.co.uk/fash...s-steam-vagina-goop/





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January 21, 2023, 12:49 AM
Bisleyblackhawk
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Originally posted by jhe888:

Well played.
…

Only thing missing is ‘The Dude’ in the bowling ally Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


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January 21, 2023, 05:21 AM
irreverent
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Originally posted by 911Boss:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by Audioholic:
She’s already done the scent of her vagina so this time she’ll do his…

I didn't believe you. Now I'm kind of grossed out.



She also steams it. Not sure if it is for the wrinkles or some other reason…

https://graziadaily.co.uk/fash...s-steam-vagina-goop/


How did you guys ever come across this?? Good lord!


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January 21, 2023, 05:22 AM
irreverent
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Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
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Originally posted by jhe888:

Well played.
…

Only thing missing is ‘The Dude’ in the bowling ally Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin



Heheheh. My thought as well.


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January 21, 2023, 08:26 AM
parabellum
Getting back to the subject at hand

Hubris


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January 21, 2023, 08:31 AM
irreverent
My apologies for the drift.


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