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The horses and buggies will be here at 0700 for the new roof.

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September 16, 2025, 05:19 PM
YooperSigs
The horses and buggies will be here at 0700 for the new roof.
Roof raking is commonly used to cut down on the slide off. And snow stops. There are even companies
that will come around and roof rake on a seasonal basis. And occasionally some poor bastard seems to touch a high voltage line with his roof rake and gets fried.


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September 16, 2025, 05:28 PM
Gustofer
I've gotten good at roof raking. Last year I bought a great one. Just shove it up there and it slides down a vinyl ramp.

Sounds easy and kind of fun, but when it's dumping it's a lot of work still.

Thankfully, the only wires around are my antennas away from the house.


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September 16, 2025, 06:09 PM
WaterburyBob
They just put little pegs where you don't want the snow to slide off.
I have them over my entrance and over an almost flat roof on an addition. I didn't want the snow sliding off every snow storm and piling up on that lower roof.



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September 17, 2025, 05:58 AM
GrumpyBiker
We had Amish from a community 6 miles up the road from us put a new metal roof on 12 years ago.
Showed up @ 7am and left at 5:15pm .
Completely finished , all scrap , trash & nails picked up out of the landscaping.
They even returned a week later after a heavy rain asking if all was good. Just can’t get that type of professionalism elsewhere these days.









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September 17, 2025, 06:16 AM
selogic
Amish driving a pickup ? Mennonites ?
September 17, 2025, 06:41 AM
Gustofer
Around here, they pay folks to do the driving of the trucks/dump trailers. They'll ride in them but won't drive them.


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September 17, 2025, 08:18 AM
Rey HRH
Gustofer, the metal roof isn't going to be loud when it rains hard?



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September 17, 2025, 08:32 AM
ridewv
In my case I can hear heavy rain hit but only slightly because the metal is over 1" x 4" which are attached to 3/4 OSB sheathing over the trusses.

In something like a pole building with no sheathing (from inside you see the underside of the metal when you look up) it can be loud.


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September 17, 2025, 08:39 AM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
Gustofer, the metal roof isn't going to be loud when it rains hard?

Yeah, I hope not. I don't know. That did cross my mind though.

I've been out in my (metal) shop when it rains and it hasn't been too bad.

Thankfully (sort of) we probably get less rain here than the Mojave desert, so I'm guessing it won't be too much of an issue.

...And we're off! Big Grin


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September 17, 2025, 08:43 AM
GrumpyBiker
quote:
Originally posted by selogic:
Amish driving a pickup ? Mennonites ?




No they hire an “English” to drive & pull their construction trailers.




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September 17, 2025, 09:46 AM
WaterburyBob
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
Gustofer, the metal roof isn't going to be loud when it rains hard?

Yeah, I hope not. I don't know. That did cross my mind though.

I've been out in my (metal) shop when it rains and it hasn't been too bad.

Thankfully (sort of) we probably get less rain here than the Mojave desert, so I'm guessing it won't be too much of an issue.

...And we're off! Big Grin

Rain noise is a little louder with the metal shingle roof, but it's not a problem.
They put an insulating board down before the shingles; that blocks noise and improves energy efficiency.



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September 17, 2025, 09:48 AM
Gustofer
One hour and the shingles are off. Damn these guys don't mess around! Big Grin

I found something interesting. I forgot to remove my gutters so they, of course, went after it. One fella pulled out a big ass propane tank hooked to some kind of weird ass generator and ran a hose up to an impact wrench and went to town.

I offered my Milwaukee driver (it'd be alot easier than all that). "Nope, we're all good". Apparently some kind of power is OK and some ain't.

I think I'll just stay out of their way...

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September 17, 2025, 10:37 AM
Bluecobra
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Curious if anyone has gone from shakes or asphalt to metal, have you noticed any or much difference in cell coverage?

I get two bars at best and have been thinking that that might diminish.


We went from shingle to metal about 9 years ago. The signal inside is not very good for cell phones since then. We have our phones hit the wifi so we don't miss any calls. I set up a guest network for visitors so they can get coverage/make calls.

Outside I have good reception - about 4-5 bars, inside 2. Cell tower is a mile up the road.
September 17, 2025, 11:24 AM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by selogic:
Amish driving a pickup ? Mennonites ?


No, it's common for them to have a non-Amish person as a driver. They are allowed to ride but not drive cars.

Last year member Cookster gave me an entire Amish-built playset like this one in the pic and I had it moved about 18 miles from his house to my house. There were several large pieces including the huge heavy crossbeam we were having trouble with getting reassembled so I looked up the company that built it and they sent out some guys to finish it.



My wife told me that a truck pulled up to our house and out comes non-Amish driver and the VERY Amish "Jacob", "Samuel" and "Eli" who put the thing back together in about 10 minutes and were on their way! there were like five of us that could not get this back together but these three burly Amish guys handled it like it was nothing.


September 17, 2025, 01:16 PM
bendable
Did you hire catering ?
For the ham,the turkey, 6 pounds of baked potatoes, coleslaw, three kinds of pie, green beans , sweet corn, rolls .





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September 17, 2025, 01:32 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
One fella pulled out a big ass propane tank hooked to some kind of weird ass generator and ran a hose up to an impact wrench and went to town.

Apparently some kind of power is OK and some ain't.


It's the same way in their carpentry shops. A lot of times they'll have a generator out there to power tools, but they won't connect to the grid, or run power to their house.
September 17, 2025, 02:48 PM
Gustofer
Eh, whatever works.

A thought just occurred to me after a few years of considering a metal roof:

I have a big bug problem. Paper wasps and no-see-ums mostly. Literally billions, like something out of one of those 70s horror movies, of no-see-ums. How does one keep them from nesting up in the ends of the roofing?

Can, or should, I spray some foam up each and every one of the rises in the roof?


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September 17, 2025, 04:19 PM
cee_Kamp
A proper metal roof installation will add self adhesive closed cell foam strips that match the underside of the metal roof contours. It's easy to install as the roofing goes up.
If I recall, when they cut a steel panel to size, first they fit it into place for a "test" fit, then slide it down off the roof a few inches, attach the foam strips, and lift it up again into place.
They did it at my place during the metal roof installation.



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September 17, 2025, 04:30 PM
Gustofer
Thank you sir. I'll go out and check with them. I don't think they're doing it, but we'll see.


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September 19, 2025, 11:43 AM
old rugged cross
quote:
Originally posted by cee_Kamp:
A proper metal roof installation will add self adhesive closed cell foam strips that match the underside of the metal roof contours. It's easy to install as the roofing goes up.
If I recall, when they cut a steel panel to size, first they fit it into place for a "test" fit, then slide it down off the roof a few inches, attach the foam strips, and lift it up again into place.
They did it at my place during the metal roof installation.


I have never seen this. What would the purpose be?
We have tons of metal roof's in our area. And I have never seen it done. I will be have a large pole structure built before winter with a metal roof and no foam strips will be used.



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