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Since the first Glock was designed and built by an Austrian curtain-rod manufacturer, Gaston Glock, in 1982, the sleek weapon has become the most popular handgun in America among both cops and criminals. In fact, the company claims that some 65 percent of U.S. police departments use Glocks, often the lightweight Glock 19 with its 15-round magazine.

But when the Army decided to replace the M9 Beretta, the sidearm that’s been on the hips of soldiers for the past 30 years, it bypassed Smith & Wesson and Glock and handed a potential $580 million contract for its Modular Handgun System (MHS) to Sig Sauer. The German-controlled company will manufacture the Sig Sauer P320 in New Hampshire.

However, as Bloomberg Businessweek writer Paul Barrett made clear in his 2012 book Glock: The Rise of America’s Gun, Glock doesn’t like to lose. It has filed a protest with the General Accounting Office, contesting the awarding of the contract to Sig Sauer.

The basis for contesting the contract is not clear from the filing, but by law, the GAO has 100 days from a bid protest filing to render a decision on whether the procurement process was flawed, so a judgment is due by early June.

The attorney for Glock was not immediately available for comment. But the website Bearing Arms says, “The fact Glock is protesting the decision strongly suggests that the company developed a ‘modular mystery Glock’ that has not yet been seen by the public. None of Glock’s existing handgun designs come close to being ‘modular.’”

The Sig Sauer P320 is designed to be adapted to the needs of the shooter and the mission: For example, the grip can be adjusted, it can be configured for silencers and it can be converted to fire three different types of ammunition.

The Army plans to phase in the P320 over the next decade, and the contract includes weapons, accessories and ammo. The Marines may make it the sidearm of choice, too.

Sore losers. Maybe they should try to innovate past the 80's with a new design.

Typical of any government contract. If you cannot win on a products' merits, sue (or contest). Seems a lot of the time what happens is a new test is ordered, the process gets drawn out, and then finally cancelled and no one wins.

The world is not enough

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Originally posted by dwd1985:
Since the first Glock was designed and built by an Austrian curtain-rod manufacturer, Gaston Glock, in 1982, the sleek weapon ...

"Sleek?" Few firearms aficionados I know would refer to a Glock as "sleek."

Don't get me wrong: I appreciate Glocks for what they are (I own two), and honour Gaston Glock for the innovation he brought to the semi-automatic handgun world, but, Glock pistols are hardly "sleek."

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Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
Sore losers. Maybe they should try to innovate past the 80's with a new design.

The Glock is modular. There is a Gen 1, Gen2, Gen3, Gen4, and the to be delivered Gen5!

Glock may have been revolutionary 30 years ago. But since then they are playing catch up to the rest of the industry.

Forgot where I read it. Maybe they are just protesting to point out they didn't make it because of the modular fcu and safety and that they didn't get selected because the gun failed something. It just didn't meet all the requirements.

Clearly the generals on the selection committee didn't read the " You will buy a Glock" thread...

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Originally posted by ElToro:
Clearly the generals on the selection committee didn't read the " You will buy a Glock" thread...

Yes I was just going to say they didn't get the MEMO

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Forgot where I read it. Maybe they are just protesting to point out they didn't make it because of the modular fcu and safety and that they didn't get selected because the gun failed something. It just didn't meet all the requirements.

It made it to the final 3 of selection but didn't meet the requirements??? What makes you think that? It wouldn't have even been tested if that were true.

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Originally posted by KMitch200:

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Forgot where I read it. Maybe they are just protesting to point out they didn't make it because of the modular fcu and safety and that they didn't get selected because the gun failed something. It just didn't meet all the requirements.

It made it to the final 3 of selection but didn't meet the requirements??? What makes you think that? It wouldn't have even been tested if that were true.

I could see a loose interpretation of the requirements based on Glock's reputation and its pre-existence in the government ordering system. So they test it to find out if it can keep up, while they decide just how modular the MHS needed to be.

Does the GAO have anything to do with military contracting? I would think this would have to go through the Pentagon.

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Originally posted by KMitch200:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chowser:
It made it to the final 3 of selection but didn't meet the requirements??? What makes you think that? It wouldn't have even been tested if that were true.

A possible explanation:

"Only the Sig Sauer P320, with a serialized core frame and the ability to swap different grip lengths and slide-barrel combinations, seems to meet the requirements of the RFP among the named designs*. The Beretta APX, CZ P09, Smith & Wesson M&P, and Glock models only offer swappable backstraps. They lack any kind of actual modularity and the ability to change frame sizes and slide/barrel lengths on the same chassis."
https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/...-armys-next-handgun/

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In fact, the company claims that some 65 percent of U.S. police departments use Glocks, often the lightweight Glock 19 with its 15-round magazine.

Call me ignorant, but I've seen a whole lot more G22's and G17's on cops than G19's, no?

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Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
Sore losers. Maybe they should try to innovate past the 80's with a new design.

I recall that SIG did the same during ATF trials.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
I recall that SIG did the same during ATF trials.

IIRC SIG's complaint was that reliability was too heavily weighted for the decision process.

Colt filed a contest on the M4 contract when Remington won it and FN and Colt wound up winning contracts.

Pretty much every contract over 10 million gets objected by the loser(s), nothing new in the gov. contract business.

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Originally posted by Zacsquatch:
Pretty much every contract over 10 million gets objected by the loser(s), nothing new in the gov. contract business.

KAC didn't protest the M-110C contract.

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I appreciate Glocks for what they are (I own two), and honour Gaston Glock for the innovation he brought to the

could you kindly expand on that "innovation "? I'm doing a research project and that information would be helpful. Thanks