Everyone says that the folks of Denver and/or Colorado voted for this. Can anyone who lives there completely agree that the Denver residents actually did vote the way we claim or is it vote fraud that is simply accepted because it’s been going on for so long?

To those a-holes saying this is deserved because people voted that way.
First of all go f--- yourselves.
Second, do you really think this was voted for? You have any idea how much ballot harvesting is done here?
The only way to fix this place or any other commie stronghold is to break laws and shoot some folks. Something most fudds can't wrap their heads around.

I’d happily rub anyone’s nose in shit that in ANY WAY offered support for these illegals being allowed into the country, including voting for politicians that promoted it. They get exactly what they deserve. They get to watch themselves marginalized and those same illegals put ahead of them.

NY doing something similar

https://www.breitbart.com/immi...rants-ny-state-jobs/

New York’s Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul is moving forward with her plan to retool the Civil Service Commission to put illegal aliens at the head of the line for state jobs.

At the end of January, Hochul approved a plan for the state to hire 4,000 illegal aliens for entry-level state jobs. Not only is the state preparing to put illegals at the head of the line, but the plan Hochul approved eliminates several requirements for illegals to be eligible for the jobs.

The rules requiring applicants to take the civil service exam and to have a high school diploma have been eliminated.

They’re Dropping High School Diploma & English Proficiency Requirements

“Hochul is eyeing around 4,000 entry level positions that are currently unfilled within state agencies. Those include clerical or administrative roles, technical support, equipment service, and repair jobs, as well as those positions in food services.”

The aim is to get illegals into state jobs faster once they get approved work permits.

Hochul also claimed that she hears from business owners all across the state pleading with her to approve illegals for jobs.

“Hotel owners and restaurant owners coming to me: ‘Can you send some of the migrants up here? We need them.’ I hear this in every corner of the state,” the governor said.

Naturally, New York City’s Democrat Mayor Eric Adams also favors the plan to lower the bar to get illegals into government and private sector jobs quickly.

In selling the plan to put illegals ahead of citizens, New York State Senate Labor Committee chair Jessica Ramos, a Democrat, conflated “New Yorkers” with the migrants for whom she was advocating.

“I think that every single New Yorker that can and wants to work should be able to work, especially, I think, when we start looking at our state jobs and how many of them are readily available,” Ramos said.

She also pushed higher taxes on “the rich” to help pay for the new jobs she is trying to fill.

“In a state where we see that income inequality is worse than ever — we had 120 billionaires in New York state prior to the pandemic, we’re up to 135 today — that only means that more money is being hoarded,” she said. “It is not being circulated in our communities,” Ramos exclaimed.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
To those a-holes saying this is deserved because people voted that way.
First of all go f--- yourselves.
Second, do you really think this was voted for? You have any idea how much ballot harvesting is done here?
The only way to fix this place or any other commie stronghold is to break laws and shoot some folks. Something most fudds can't wrap their heads around.

You can go fuck yourself, yourself. It was voted for period. Just because you don't like it, cussing at us won't change your government. If you think the best way to do that is murder, there is something wrong with you.

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Originally posted by sdy:


“Hotel owners and restaurant owners coming to me: ‘Can you send some of the migrants up here? We need them.’ I hear this in every corner of the state,” the governor said.

Yes because they know they will work for extremely low wages and not complain.

This is really sickening.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
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Sorry to burst you little illusion that society is functioning as advertised but it's not. In revolutions people kill and people die. Time to grow up and be a big boy about it rather than virtue signal.

The libtard socialists will never ever give up. They don’t wake up sone morning and decide to give everything back.

The only viable solution is a revolution and to wipe out those that are trying to destroy the country. Either one at a time or in groups of a dozen. Doesn’t matter.

Voting is what got us to this point in time. The system has been perverted. Voting cannot solve this problem. That’s an insane non-solution.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
The libtard socialists will never ever give up. They don’t wake up sone morning and decide to give everything back.

The only viable solution is a revolution and to wipe out those that are trying to destroy the country. Either one at a time or in groups of a dozen. Doesn’t matter.


Voting is what got us to this point in time. The system has been perverted. Voting cannot solve this problem. That’s an insane non-solution.

I agree. People who think this has anything to do with voting or playing by outdated and corrupted rules are sheep.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
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Sorry to burst you little illusion that society is functioning as advertised but it's not. In revolutions people kill and people die. Time to grow up and be a big boy about it rather than virtue signal.

Cool, keep cussing at us, cause that's super helpful. I'm sure your one man revolution will stop it all. Good luck.

The NY civil service unions with be VERY mad. So very very mad. And come election time, they will tell their members to vote for her anyway.


As far as the "they voted for it" nonsense goes, I've been saying the same thing ad nauseam. I find it so strange that the same people who don't think the presidential election is or has been legit, don't seem to question every other race. You don't start off with the crime on the century, you work up to it.

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
Not that it matters to libtards, but I thought it was illegal to hire illegals?
Sorry, "undocumented migrants".

You had it right the first time.

While I hate to see this crap happening in our country, it makes me kind of happy to see that the "bussing" strategy that governors like Abbott and Desantis created is actually working. When they started doing it I was concerned that it was just a publicity stunt, but they actually stuck to it for years, and it's making a difference.

All of these virtue-signaling sanctuary cities are now having to deal with the problem on their own doorstep instead of being able to use the safety of geographic separation to scold the border states for being upset about the issue. And we now have some very unlikely people (mayors and governors of some very liberal areas) putting pressure on the feds to actually do something about the problem, because they got a dose of reality and now understand that it really is a problem.

I saw the other day that San Francisco is actually considering drug testing as a prerequisite for welfare payments. I remember when Indiana and Kentucky were considering doing that about a decade ago, and got all kinds of criticism from the left for being hateful and denying support to the poor. Funny how your perspective changes when your streets are overrun with homeless encampments and dead bodies from fentanyl overdoses.

It's sad that these idiots didn't have the intelligence and foresight to see the predictable outcomes of their policies before they actually came to fruition, but at least now some of them are starting to wake up. Liberalism is its own worst enemy, and I think we've reached a point where even the only slightly rational are figuring that out. The tide is turning.

For those of you who are advocating shooting people...what are you suggesting? Murder? War? Never mind that fact that it disregards all of the moral and legal principles of a just society, the former only gives them martyrs and political ammunition to use against the right, and does nothing to promote an actual solution to any of these problems. The latter is too horrible to contemplate, and would almost certainly result in the collapse of what's left of our country into factionalized anarchy, not the conservative or libertarian utopia that many seem to think it would.

If some of you guys are legitimately considering the stuff you're spouting and not just playing keyboard commando, I'd strongly recommend that you take a breath and think through the consequences and likely outcomes of what you're suggesting. I realize I don't live in a commie-run state and don't have to put up with the same degree of bullshit that some of you guys do, but working within the framework of the law, no matter how frustrating, is still the only solution that yields a desirable outcome.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
For those of you who are advocating shooting people...what are you suggesting? Murder? War? Never mind that fact that it disregards all of the moral and legal principles of a just society, the former only gives them martyrs and political ammunition to use against the right, and does nothing to promote an actual solution to any of these problems. The latter is too horrible to contemplate, and would almost certainly result in the collapse of what's left of our country into factionalized anarchy, not the conservative or libertarian utopia that many seem to think it would.

If some of you guys are legitimately considering the stuff you're spouting and not just playing keyboard commando, I'd strongly recommend that you take a breath and think through the consequences and likely outcomes of what you're suggesting. I realize I don't live in a commie-run state and don't have to put up with the same degree of bullshit that some of you guys do, but working within the framework of the law, no matter how frustrating, is still the only solution that yields a desirable outcome.

92fs, I tried replying without emotion to the "shooting posts" the way you just did and ended up walking away. Too pissed and I came across really bad. You put my thoughts in a civilized and logical post. Thanks, that was really good.

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Originally posted by sdy:


“Hotel owners and restaurant owners coming to me: ‘Can you send some of the migrants up here? We need them.’ I hear this in every corner of the state,” the governor said.

Yes because they know they will work for extremely low wages and not complain.

This is really sickening.

Yes, the business owners can avoid compliance with overtime laws and if there is a complaint from the illegally employed worker, they get fired. Employers can violate workers compensation laws as the employee just goes to the nearest public hospital, which has a duty to treat them and the bill never gets paid due to fictitious identification -which the hospital recovers by increasing treatment costs for insured patients or by going out of business.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
To those a-holes saying this is deserved because people voted that way.
First of all go f--- yourselves.
Second, do you really think this was voted for? You have any idea how much ballot harvesting is done here?
The only way to fix this place or any other commie stronghold is to break laws and shoot some folks. Something most fudds can't wrap their heads around.

Really smart move. Talk about "breaking laws and shooting some folks" on a gun enthusiasts forum.

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Originally posted by DetonicsMk6:

Yes, the business owners can avoid compliance with overtime laws and if there is a complaint from the illegally employed worker, they get fired. Employers can violate workers compensation laws as the employee just goes to the nearest public hospital, which has a duty to treat them and the bill never gets paid due to fictitious identification -which the hospital recovers by increasing treatment costs for insured patients or by going out of business.

Some friends say the US is just expanding their caste system. One caste is the H-1B tech workers that are paid less, don't file HR or workers comp claims, and must be sponsored by an employer to stay in the US. There's a similar version of those in healthcare.

Another caste are the illegal migrants hired for decades at meat processing plants, seed processing plants, construction, and more. They're a lower caste than the H-1B types and work under fake names, low pay, and may be fired if they complain about anything. ICE may raid their employer once in a while, but they know they will be rehired under a new name a few days later.

These illegals working for state government sounds like a new caste.

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Originally posted by bryan11:

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Originally posted by DetonicsMk6:

Yes, the business owners can avoid compliance with overtime laws and if there is a complaint from the illegally employed worker, they get fired. Employers can violate workers compensation laws as the employee just goes to the nearest public hospital, which has a duty to treat them and the bill never gets paid due to fictitious identification -which the hospital recovers by increasing treatment costs for insured patients or by going out of business.

Some friends say the US is just expanding their caste system. One caste is the H-1B tech workers that are paid less, don't file HR or workers comp claims, and must be sponsored by an employer to stay in the US. There's a similar version of those in healthcare.

Another caste are the illegal migrants hired for decades at meat processing plants, seed processing plants, construction, and more. They're a lower caste than the H-1B types and work under fake names, low pay, and may be fired if they complain about anything. ICE may raid their employer once in a while, but they know they will be rehired under a new name a few days later.

These illegals working for state government sounds like a new caste.

I'm always bemused at the fact that meat packing plants are almost entirely staffed by illegal aliens nowadays. My Dad and three of his brothers first on-the-books job as teens was working for Swifts & Company in S. Dakota. All four went on to be very successful gents.

I've been banging the drum ad nauseum for decades about illegal immigration. It's only becoming a more serious problem as time goes on and I'm not going to find it acceptable when we have our very own version of the Israeli October 7th attack and our "leaders" say, "Gosh, how were we to know?"

There is no easy and fast way to fix our problems. Via the ballot box, it would require a properly educated public, a secure voting system and a couple of generations of persistence. Another remedy is faster but bloody without a guaranteed result. The last solution is to continue until it all collapses and let anarchy cleanse as does fire. Rebuild from the ashes and hope for the best. I think the latter is most likely since human nature is to follow the path of least immediate resistance.

I wonder if having O hours would impact their pension?