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Originally posted by smschulz:
Maybe while they are in there fixing his heart they can work on his brain.

Didn’t the lobotomy work the first time?

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Originally posted by goose5:
Some things are more important than politics. Prayers for the Sanders family.

It has nothing to do with politics. Prayers are for good people not liars, cheats, and theives.

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Originally posted by pbslinger:
As calm and serene as Bernie appears, I'm stunned he'd have heart problems.

Better he has problems now and not make the cut.

Timing's good. He's out.

As to wishing him well...

I just can't do that so I'll say no more.

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Some things are more important than politics. Prayers for the Sanders family.

Prayers are for all. Those who cares about him, whacky dingbat that he may be, do not deserve the heart-wringing anxiety which comes with the hospitalization of a loved one.

Sanders has his own opinions and a core group which have hoisted those opinions onto their shoulders. He'll likely lose DNC nomination and run as an independent, splitting the D vote.

I've not heard more than a few sub-10-second sound bites of his in my life. Know nothing about the man. What state is he from? Liberal New England, that is as close as my understanding goes. He seems an old, tired, and confused man, bitter at a capitalist system laid down in his own patch almost 2 ½ centuries ago.

My understanding is that by the time a stent is required, feeling “discomfort” is a bit of an understatement. I hear it hurts like hell.

If true, the report is trying to downplay the seriousness of his problem.

Don't stents just clog up in a few years anyway?

If Bernie was a normal schmo (not a politician) in Canada how long would he have to wait, 10, 15 WEEKS? Or would he hop on a plane to America if he had the money?

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Originally posted by wrightd:

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Originally posted by goose5:
Some things are more important than politics. Prayers for the Sanders family.

It has nothing to do with politics. Prayers are for good people not liars, cheats, and theives.

Matthew 5:44 says otherwise.

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Originally posted by egregore:

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Originally posted by pbslinger:
As calm and serene as Bernie appears, I'm stunned he'd have heart problems.

Mom always said if you can't say anything nice about someone, then don't say anything at all; so... sig sailor over and out.

I didn’t see Bernie going to Cuba or Venezuela for his heart procedure? It’s supposedly free there.

Any GDC (especially a hypocrite millionaire) who advocates confiscating/redistributing the wealth and property I’ve spent the better part of my life working for, can FOAD. And the sooner, the better.

There, I said it.

I want to thank sdy for using the correct term “procedure” rather than “surgery” in the title to this thread. The press routinely fails to make this distinction; just as they call a cardiac arrest a “heart attack”.

^^^ OK, doc... so what's the difference between a "cardiac arrest" and a “heart attack”?
Or is it just that "cardiac arrest" is doctor talk for what we plebes call a “heart attack”?

Technically, "cardiac arrest" would be when the heart stops beating. A "heart attack" could be many things, but the general meaning of a "heart attack" is a myocardial infarction (MI), which is a blood clot blocking the flow of blood to a vessel supplying oxygen to some part of the heart muscle, usually causing it to die, which could lead to cardiac arrest. Where the MI is located and how large the vessel is relates to the severity of the "attack." You could also have a variety of electrical malfunctions (cardiac arrhythmias) affecting the rythm of the heart that would often be described as a "heart attack."

Get off my lawn planet.

Doc H. is correct.
In simpler terms, a heart attack these days is revealed by chest pain (most frequently), patient is brought to the ED by EMT's where EKG and enzymes reveal potential damage to the heart; usually the patient gets taken right away to the cath lab and a stent is inserted to open a blocked artery.
It is usually eminently survivable, hence no big deal; the patient is put on meds and gets back to their life.

A cardiac arrest is a BFD. The heart has stopped pumping, the brain will die if blood flow is not restored within minutes. Outside the hospital arrestsurvival is under 10%.

I moaned when news reports said Carrie Fisher had a "heart attack" on a plane; she had a cardiac arrest.

On this board we have probably hundreds of people who have had a heart attack and are doing well.
My guess is we have maybe 10 who have had a cardiac arrest and are alive to tell about it.

As for "procedure" vs. "surgery": surgery involves cutting open the body, in this case the chest cavity, by a cardiac surgeon. A "procedure" could include surgery, but the term is usually used to refer to a nonsurgical intervention: for the heart, a catheter is put into a radial or femoral artery, a balloon with a stent over it is placed into a blocked artery and inflated, the balloon removed and the stent left in place.
These are done by interventional cardiologists, not cardiac surgeons.
People used to think because I'm a cardiologist, I did heart surgery. Cardiology is a branch of internal medicine, it's a different training track completely.

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Thank you for the clarification. Another poster earlier in the thread suggested he would need weeks of Cardiac Rehabilitation. I think it is premature to think that Sanders would have to undergo weeks of Cardiac Rehab. if he only suffered chest pain and did not have an MI or cardiac arrest. Is this correct? I do not think we have enough iformation to guess about any cardiac rehabilitation.