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"It was reported by Saudi media that the kingdom executed eighty one men today including members of Al-Qaida, the "Islamic State" and supporters of Yemen's Houthi rebels."

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No repeat offenders.

Insh Allah

Executions every Fri in “chop-chop square,” Riyadh.

Somewhere in between their system andours, is the solution to many of our problems.

In studying American history you will find that up until the last 50 or so years, Federal, state and local governments executed the condemned very quickly. And then, the bleeding hearts took over. The younger among us may not even be aware that for a short time- from 1972 to 1976, the death penalty was abolished in the United States.

After the death penalty was re-instituted, that's when the obscenely long slowdown began to take place. Thirty years on death row? An absolute joke. Just sentence the condemned to life in prison with no possibility of parole. It would make more sense, and it would be cheaper. Appeal after appeal after appeal after appeal. It's ridiculous.

The leftists say that the death penalty is not a deterrent. Well, no, not the idiotic way we're going about it..

You have to admit though, DNA evidence has exonerated a fair number of death row inmates that were railroaded or forced to confess. Prosecutors and police DO railroad people for political reasons.

I was living in IL when Gary Dotson was freed after years in prison for a rape he did not commit. His life was still a trainwreck and he got himself killed a few years later, but he was wrongly convicted by a woman who lied to cover up for another guy.

Now that we have DNA evidence, guilt or innocence should be much more clear and justly sentenced executions should happen more quickly.

The issue in the 70's was if execution was "cruel and unusual". Historically, it's not unusual. Is the electric chair cruel? Yes I think so. Is lethal injection cruel? Well, sometimes it doesn't work right. Hanging? It's pretty quick, but I've never seen a real one. Firing squad? I think it has a certain dignity to it.

If I were executed I think I'd like to fall from a tall building. The end is pretty quick but at least you find out what happens instead of waking up...

I'm watching the original Dexter series for the second time.....

No mention of the guillotine? Messy but very effective.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
You have to admit though, DNA evidence has exonerated a fair number of death row inmates that were railroaded or forced to confess. Prosecutors and police DO railroad people for political reasons.

I'm not going to admit that. OJ Dream Team lawyer Barry Scheck and his Innocence Project taught me to question how the legal system has been corrupted by alleged "science". Scheck challenged the chain of custody with DNA evidence in that trial, not convincingly but just enough to cloud the issue. Not getting into specifics and to be flippant, Scheck's chicanery meant the chances someone other than OJ was the perp were a bazillion to one vs. a gazillion to one, reasonable doubt? No, just one of too many illegitimate clouds in that trial.

Point being, I can't say I've looked into any case where an old conviction was overturned by DNA evidence but I can show you where science is used to subvert our way of life.

Capital Punishment is never having to say "You again?".

Ha! I don’t trust our current government to adjudicate fairly if I am in the hot seat; especially with capital punishment. They’ve called out their enemy, and for some odd reason it looks a lot like us. (Well that, and a jerry can of gasoline.)

The folks that are against the death penalty because an innocent person might be condemned haven't thought it through. If you are innocent and wrongly convicted, the death penalty is a humane end to your torment. As has been pointed out, our society no longer has the stomach for capital punishment...probably best to just take it off the books.

Capital punishment is actually a mercy to the condemned. We are doing the guilty a favor by allowing him to save his soul and seek absolution.

As Samuel Johnson once quipped, "When a man knows he is to be hanged...it concentrates his mind wonderfully."

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Originally posted by bdylan:
The folks that are against the death penalty because an innocent person might be condemned haven't thought it through. If you are innocent and wrongly convicted, the death penalty is a humane end to your torment.

Just when I thought I'd heard the most fucking idiotic thing ever conceived, someone comes along and proves that there are depths yet to plumb.

You actually just said that it's acceptable to convict an innocent man, and that capitol punishment is humane because it ends the suffering of those wrongfully convicted?

What the every loving fuck is wrong with you? Seriously.

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Originally posted by konata88:
I'm watching the original Dexter series for the second time.....

Oh my God! Episode 1 is where he he brings a pedophile and murderer of children to a trailer and reintroduces him to his victims! That’s how how punishment should be dealt out. Best episode that I know of!

Of course in real life there is a percentage of convicts that are innocent…
That sucks! I’ve thought of that often

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Originally posted by bdylan:

If you are innocent and wrongly convicted, the death penalty is a humane end to your torment.

While I was thinking about this and composing a reply, guppy wrote his reply. He said it all; nothing needs to be added.

A few years ago I was up in the middle of the night and started reading about capital punishment in Saudi Arabia. here are some things I recall:

The Saudis often gather up a bunch of capital cases from across the country and execute them on the same day, usually in a place local to the scene of the crime (e.g., near the site where a murder or rape occurred). I suspect they do this so Amnesty International and the rest of their ilk can bitch and moan for a day or two per year, rather than giving them 81 days when they can bitch and moan.

The capital punishment methods include beheading, hanging, and shooting. Although the article said they also use crucifixion, I don't think that is correct. IIRC the case mentioned involved a man who was shot with a single round from behind, through the spine and heart. He was dead when he was placed on a large cross.

The official Chief Executioner is a man whose family has been in the job for several generations. He is largely despised by the population. He uses a sword to remove a person's head. He is so good at this job, it normally takes but a single swipe. Soldiers handle the shooting and hangings.

I can certainly see swift and sure capital punishment in the case of terrorists, especially the ones who proudly proclaim their guilt.

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Originally posted by John Steed:
I can certainly see swift and sure capital punishment in the case of terrorists, especially the ones who proudly proclaim their guilt.

Absolutely agree. Same with any violent conviction based on clear video evidence.

Take em out back and evacuate cranium post-haste.

Pretty soon you won’t be able to tell a real video from a deep fake.

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Originally posted by Ripley:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
You have to admit though, DNA evidence has exonerated a fair number of death row inmates that were railroaded or forced to confess. Prosecutors and police DO railroad people for political reasons.

I'm not going to admit that. OJ Dream Team lawyer Barry Scheck and his Innocence Project taught me to question how the legal system has been corrupted by alleged "science". Scheck challenged the chain of custody with DNA evidence in that trial, not convincingly but just enough to cloud the issue. Not getting into specifics and to be flippant, Scheck's chicanery meant the chances someone other than OJ was the perp were a bazillion to one vs. a gazillion to one, reasonable doubt? No, just one of too many illegitimate clouds in that trial.

Point being, I can't say I've looked into any case where an old conviction was overturned by DNA evidence but I can show you where science is used to subvert our way of life.

Barry's regular job is getting the convictions of many wrongly accused people overturned because the DNA evidence provides absolute proof they were not the perpetrator. He regularly argued how conclusive a DNA mismatch is to rule out a suspect, and how the odds of a DNA match between two different people is so high that is is statistically impossible.

For O.J. he was paid to say the opposite - that even though the DNA mostly matched, it was not proof enough. The match wasn't perfect due to contamination with other blood, and he argued illogically that blood samples from the scene could somehow be contaminated in such a way that they looked like match to O.J. He should have refused the case, because as you said, he loses credibility arguing both sides depending on who is paying him. But then, he's a lawyer, so....