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Researchers Find No Racial Disparity in Police Deadly Force…and That’s Just the Beginning.
August 08, 2019, 03:03 PM
tleddyResearchers Find No Racial Disparity in Police Deadly Force…and That’s Just the Beginning.
Please read the whole article...
American Police are not systematically engaged in racially biased shootings. There is no epidemic of police shooting unarmed citizens, of any race. And, errors in police deadly force decision making (cases in which police shoot unarmed, non-attacking citizens) occur at a rate of about one in a million. And realistically, it’s probably much lower than that.
These findings, and others, were recently reported by faculty at Michigan State University and the University of Maryland at College Park. In separate studies, which analyzed police shootings over one- and two-year periods, these researchers answered, “What factors predict the race of a person fatally shot by police?”
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August 08, 2019, 03:06 PM
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August 08, 2019, 03:18 PM
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You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier August 08, 2019, 04:21 PM
tleddyAs an aside, I plan to use this study when I get in a debate with my Liberal acquaintances. I think it is a valuable tool.
Also, IBID comment above on lies and truth.
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August 08, 2019, 05:21 PM
HayesGreenerI did not need a study to tell me this, but I am impressed with the work that is being done by the Force Science Institute. My experience has been that although on rare occasion mistakes are made, on the other side of the coin the amount of restraint used by officers in the application of force is extraordinary.
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Chief of Police (Retired)
August 08, 2019, 05:22 PM
Bulldog7972quote:
Originally posted by tleddy:
As an aside, I plan to use this study when I get in a debate with my Liberal acquaintances. I think it is a valuable tool.
Also, IBID comment above on lies and truth.
Good luck with that. I tried that. They won't believe you or the report. "More right wing lies" as I was once told.
August 08, 2019, 05:58 PM
VBVAGUYAll my opinion here: Honestly it is the Main Stream Media that is causing the divide among the people. If a shooting occurs with a person of color they will report it with authority yet if it not of a person of color it will not be reported or not seem as important. God Bless

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August 08, 2019, 06:37 PM
Chris42A good read - all of it. Having done some research in academia, this piece looks to be well done and well documented.
August 08, 2019, 06:50 PM
Skins2881Ground breaking study.
-Getting shot by police is extremely rare.
-Getting shot by police while innocent, extremely, extremely rare.
-Chances of getting shot go up if you engage in criminal activities.
-You are extremely likely to be shot if you attack an officer.
-Cops are not murderous racists.
We really need a study for this?
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis August 08, 2019, 06:56 PM
ZSMICHAELWhat research shows is often NOT what is reported by the media. I read the entire report and do not question the findings. However, the fact that the study appears on a Website that does training for Law Enforcement lessens its credibility to many people.
The lead researcher is a social psychologist who is an associate professor at Michigan State University. If the article was published in an established peer reviewed journal the crediblity would be increased. In the same way as studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine receive more attention because they are peer reviewed.
This is the type of important research that needs to be done at academic institutions not some of the useless stuff that faculty turn out to attain tenure.
August 08, 2019, 06:58 PM
ZSMICHAELquote:
Getting shot by police is extremely rare.
-Getting shot by police while innocent, extremely, extremely rare.
-Chances of getting shot go up if you engage in criminal activities.
-You are extremely likely to be shot if you attack an officer.
-Cops are not murderous racists.
We really need a study for this?
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According to Clown News Network the above findings are fallacious. Read the entire article like the OP suggested. It goes well beyond these bullet points you cite.
August 08, 2019, 07:13 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
Getting shot by police is extremely rare.
-Getting shot by police while innocent, extremely, extremely rare.
-Chances of getting shot go up if you engage in criminal activities.
-You are extremely likely to be shot if you attack an officer.
-Cops are not murderous racists.
We really need a study for this?
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According to Clown News Network the above findings are fallacious. Read the entire article like the OP suggested. It goes well beyond these bullet points you cite.
I read it. That pretty much sums it up.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis August 08, 2019, 07:15 PM
bigdealquote:
“[T]he number one way to reduce fatal shootings of anybody, black or white citizens or Hispanic citizens, …, the number one thing is reduction in crime,…not being involved in criminal activity is far and away the best way to not be shot by the police.”
Dr. Joseph Cesario
Well....da.

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August 08, 2019, 07:17 PM
bigdealquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
According to Clown News Network the above findings are fallacious. Read the entire article like the OP suggested. It goes well beyond these bullet points you cite.
Of course its fallacious. Anything that doesn't support the current dishonest narrative is wrong or worthless. And for the record, I don't believe anyone at CCN can actually read anyway.
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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
August 08, 2019, 09:32 PM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by Chris42:
A good read - all of it. Having done some research in academia, this piece looks to be well done and well documented.
No matter. The Leftists will still refuse to believe or accept it as truth.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth August 08, 2019, 10:19 PM
enidpd804quote:
Originally posted by tleddy:
As an aside, I plan to use this study when I get in a debate with my Liberal acquaintances. I think it is a valuable tool.
Also, IBID comment above on lies and truth.
I've tried using facts. That doesn't work. I do enjoy flipping the script, though. Point out that prejudging groups of people as having any universal attribute is bigotry.
August 09, 2019, 10:33 AM
egregorequote:
Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
All my opinion here: Honestly it is the Main Stream Media that is causing the divide among the people. If a shooting occurs with a person of color they will report it with authority yet if it not of a person of color it will not be reported or not seem as important. God Bless
I believe the MSM contributed to the 1992 Los Angeles riots. They played in an endless loop Rodney
Pinata King getting whaled on after he was down (which
was excessive), but not the cluster fuck (both on his side and the cops) that led up to it. All the idiot had to do was take his ticket and nothing would have happened.
August 09, 2019, 10:35 AM
Sigoliciousquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
What research shows is often NOT what is reported by the media. I read the entire report and do not question the findings. However, the fact that the study appears on a Website that does training for Law Enforcement lessens its credibility to many people.
The lead researcher is a social psychologist who is an associate professor at Michigan State University. If the article was published in an established peer reviewed journal the crediblity would be increased. In the same way as studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine receive more attention because they are peer reviewed.
This is the type of important research that needs to be done at academic institutions not some of the useless stuff that faculty turn out to attain tenure.
If you follow the links in the original posting, you will find it has been published in an established peer reviewed journal.
Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (often abbreviated PNAS or PNAS USA) is a peer-reviewed multidisciplinary scientific journal. It is the official journal of the National Academy of Sciences, published since 1915, and publishes original research, scientific reviews, commentaries, and letters.
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August 09, 2019, 10:48 AM
RightwireI'm going to hold my breath until this is reported by ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC.....
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