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PayPal spins 180 degrees so fast they have whiplash over new "misinformation" policy announcement.
October 10, 2022, 07:25 AM
StarTravelerPayPal spins 180 degrees so fast they have whiplash over new "misinformation" policy announcement.
I just signed in to delete my account, too, and got the same note about the all-out data deletion after I unsuccessfully tried to manually delete individual info. They asked for the reason I was closing the account and I clicked "Other" and let them have it regarding their attempt to interfere with the lives of their customers.
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October 10, 2022, 07:26 AM
parabellumIf you don't want to cancel, but still want to give these freaking loons what-for:
Call PayPal Customer Service: 1-888-221-1161
Customer Service Hours: 6:00 AM PT to 6:00 PM PT Monday through Sunday
October 10, 2022, 08:40 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by StarTraveler:
I just signed in to delete my account, too, and got the same note about the all-out data deletion after I unsuccessfully tried to manually delete individual info. They asked for the reason I was closing the account and I clicked "Other" and let them have it regarding their attempt to interfere with the lives of their customers.
I just canceled as well. My note to them was simple when asked for a reason.
"You know why... 'An AUP notice recently went out in error that included incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for misinformation and this language was never intended to be inserted in our policy… We’re sorry for the confusion this has caused.' I don't believe you."
~Alan
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October 10, 2022, 09:18 AM
MoosehornManI think they owe all their customers $2500 for posting "Mis-information"
“Let us dare to read, think, speak and write.”
John Adams
October 10, 2022, 09:30 AM
rduckworI agree with Para. The simple fact that this even existed in the minds of some of their employees and then got put into written words shows just how misguided and lost they are as a corporate entity.
I have already dumped a load on them and if Zelle works out, they can kiss my ass goodbye.
RMD
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October 10, 2022, 09:36 AM
KarpteachIt’s unbelievable how these righteous companies have become. I closed my account and I’m better for it!!
October 10, 2022, 09:38 AM
BigSwedeJust closed mine as well. There are two separate steps, delete account info and close account.
October 10, 2022, 09:55 AM
tigereye313I closed mine. Here's my note:
"I am closing my account due to PayPal's announced misinformation policy. That PayPal would even propose confiscating clients' funds over arbitrarily defined 'misinformation' is absurd, let alone actually going forward to implement such a policy. Despite the rapid retraction of said policy due to popular backlash, I no longer have confidence in Paypal as a financial institution and how it may handle my private information. Therefore I am deleting my account and will take my business elsewhere."
October 10, 2022, 10:08 AM
ensigmaticI won't close mine, but it will be used
only when there's no alternative (e.g.: eBay) from now on.
Same as I did with Amazon. Cancelled Prime and they became a vendor of last resort, rather than first resort, after they pulled the stunt they did with Parler.
Same as I did with Apple, after they proposed installing spyware in iOS, iPadOS, and Mac OS. Didn't dump our Apple devices, but cancelled all plans for any additional acquisitions and cancelled all non-essential Apple products and services.
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FenderBenderquote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
With the advent of Zelle Paypal's day's are numbered anyhow.
Oh, the cop hater is back. Fuck you Fender Bender.
If anyone wonders why I dislike and call out this cop hating piece of shit, read this.
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...230020464#3230020464This whole thread has been in my signature since the day it was posted.
Frankly, I'm honored you'd dedicate your signature to me.
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October 10, 2022, 11:01 AM
HRKCurious how they were going to enforce it, Paypal isn't a social media site like Fakebook, Twatter, etc, exactly where are they going to get the information on the misinformation a user posts, from the advertisements,
Are there really people advertising things for sale and making political statements in their ads?
Stupid policy, anyone that uses them should cancel just because they are of the mindset to even think it up, and of course they wrote and let it out, the only mistake was miscalculating that someone would read the new TOS and report it.
October 10, 2022, 11:01 AM
cheezeThis is the message I’m getting. This seems like a really long time.
“Please be advised that the last credit/debit card transaction should be 180 days ago or more (60 days for bank transactions before you can close your PayPal account.
May I know why you want to close your PayPal account.”
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October 10, 2022, 11:33 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by cheeze:
"...May I know why you want to close your PayPal account.”
Tell them that if they climb out from under that rock, they'll see the reason.
October 10, 2022, 11:57 AM
cheezeI told them a couple times
“ I already told you it’s because of your recent attempt of placing super woke policies against “misinformation “. This was a very poor decision on your part”
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October 10, 2022, 11:58 AM
cheezeAn AUP notice recently went out in error that included incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for misinformation. We’re sorry for the confusion this has caused.
12:03 PM
- Naveen
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October 10, 2022, 12:00 PM
SIGnifiedJust closed my account… No big deal as I never use it. Looks like I opened it over 20 yrs ago!
Told PP it was ‘cuz of their “misinformation” bs … lol
Fuck ‘em. LHT/AMF
Re: eBay… Pretty sure the reason I don’t use PayPal anymore is because I use Apple Pay.
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casquote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
Seems it was all a "mistake".
Well in that case, I think they owe
me $2500!
This has cost them a lot more than that.
Still haven't heard anything about all the other new changes that were bullshit being reversed.
October 10, 2022, 01:58 PM
divilquote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
I would like to know those who dreamed up this policy and see which stereotypes they fit. I can imagine…..
Whatever leftist shitbird thought this up deserves a swift boot to their nether regions.
October 10, 2022, 02:07 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by cheeze:
May I know why you want to close your PayPal account.”
"May I know why . . ." -- that certainly was not written by anybody who learned English anyplace in the western hemisphere.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים October 10, 2022, 02:10 PM
tigereye313Looks like they took a $6B kick in the nuts already.
https://www.dailywire.com/news...isinformation-policy quote:
PayPal Stock Plummets After Daily Wire Report Exposes Shocking ‘Misinformation’ Policy
By Ben Zeisloft
Oct 10, 2022 DailyWire.com
Share prices for PayPal dropped more than 5% on Monday morning after a report from The Daily Wire highlighted the firm’s attempt to fine users $2,500 for spreading “misinformation” through the platform.
The financial services company, which has repeatedly deplatformed organizations and commentators for their political views, had announced a forthcoming update to its acceptable use policy that would have banned the promotion of “misinformation,” as well as “hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory.” Within one day of The Daily Wire breaking news of the policy change, PayPal claimed that the new guidelines were published “in error” and apologized “for the confusion this has caused.”
PayPal’s value fell nearly $6 billion as backlash mounted. The company’s stock closed at $90.18 on Friday afternoon and was trading at $85.40 soon after the market opened on Monday — roughly a 5.3% decline as thousands of social media users reacting to The Daily Wire story over the weekend announced that they would cancel their accounts. The Dow Jones Industrial Average remained flat while the technology-heavy Nasdaq fell 0.7% since Friday.
Customers balked as PayPal said users found in violation of the new policy could be liable for “damages,” including the removal of $2,500 “debited directly from your PayPal account” per offense, with cases deliberated at the “sole discretion” of the company. Before posting its initial story, The Daily Wire reached out to PayPal for definitions of the added terms but received no response.
The announcement and reversal occurred days after PayPal canceled three accounts linked to Toby Young, a commentator who runs a British nonprofit called Free Speech Union. The organization has defended clients such as actor and comedian Russell Brand, who recently moved his show from YouTube to Rumble in reaction to censorship from the former platform.
Among the individuals who rebuked PayPal over the policy were a number of lawmakers, commentators, and investors, as well as former PayPal President David Marcus and PayPal co-founder Elon Musk. “It’s hard for me to openly criticize a company I used to love and gave so much to,” Marcus said on social media, arguing that the nixed policy update “goes against everything I believe in.”
PayPal has also sanctioned Gays Against Groomers, a group that opposes the sexualization of children, as well as evolutionary biologist Colin Wright. The company featured a rainbow-colored banner on its social media platforms during the month of June affirming that it is “open for all,” and the company’s British subsidiary still sports the banner.
Platforms such as Amazon, Twitter, and Facebook have censored conservatives over their positions on controversial social issues, including transgenderism, vaccination mandates, and homosexuality. GoFundMe seized millions in funds raised for trucker protests in Canada earlier this year, while Google recently began suppressing search results for crisis pregnancy centers.
“Under existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,” Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, told The Daily Wire last week. “Whatever motivation PayPal has for establishing these vague new categories of prohibited expression, they will almost certainly have a severe chilling effect on users’ speech. As is often the case with ill-defined and viewpoint-discriminatory speech codes, those with unpopular or minority viewpoints will likely bear the brunt of these restrictions.”