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A large part of the problem seems to be the anxiety associated with anticipation of the event. This could be alleviated in a very humane manner by giving the patient, an anxiety and pain relieving medication’s orally several days prior to the schedule execution. However, the plan would be to give lethal dose of each, and therefore surprise the “executee”, preventing unwanted anxiety. Unfortunately, this would probably only work once.


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I could be convinced to return to hanging. Quick, sure, and when done right, pretty close to pain free. And it has the feel of state justice.

Or the guillotine, which is even more surely quick and painless.




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^^^ Same.
Hanging or the guillotine, which are both quick and painless, have the added benefit of being done in public.
The death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent as well as a punishment.



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^^^ Same.
Hanging or the guillotine, which are both quick and painless, have the added benefit of being done in public.
The death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent as well as a punishment.


No matter how justifiable the punishment may be, I think an individual that would want to watch another human being killed may have some issues of their own.
 
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A man will then be placed on Smith’s head and nitrogen will be released into he mask. He will then be deprived of oxygen."

A man will then be placed on Smith's head? LOL

DEATH BY TACO BELL!!!

Yes, I know it is a typo...

lol- so I guess they used methane instead of nitrogen. I am sure it was cheaper.

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Why not a good strong hit of fentanyl? Right up the nose. I bet I’ve worked or seen more than 20 unintentionally fatal fentanyl overdoses these past two years. I’ve also seen narcan bring the unresponsive mostly dead right back. Not a one I spoke to after remembering falling out.

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^^^ Same.
Hanging or the guillotine, which are both quick and painless, have the added benefit of being done in public.
The death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent as well as a punishment.


No matter how justifiable the punishment may be, I think an individual that would want to watch another human being killed may have some issues of their own.

Yeah, I think we've gotten to the point in human history where such things are, shall we say, a bit unpalatable. It ain't the old west anymore. While I have zero problem with preventing violent felons from harming anyone else by removing them from the gene pool, watching that happen is not on my list of things to do. Hell, I can't even watch the Youtube videos of people doing stupid things and (presumably) hurting themselves.


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I'm actually shocked we didn't employ this method sooner. It seems like a no brainer.


No money in it for the drug companies… Wink






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What is the argument against sedation? (Sedation + any other method)...What's the argument against it?



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Do normal people like to watch?
The (a?) last public hanging.

Kentucky 1936.




And as far as the evil drug companies' preventing other methods, in recent times many executions have been delayed because drug companies refused to sell the drugs necessary.




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Strange. Most all are wearing white. Why would that be?



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Strange. Most all are wearing white. Why would that be?


The sun was shining that day.


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Strange. Most all are wearing white. Why would that be?


The sun was shining that day.


This was August in KY. Sounds toasty
 
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The whole issue seems way out of normal bounds (duh ok), since there are a shit ton of ways to execute without any pain of any kind. The basic issue seems to be people's misunderstanding of justice and respect for the victim and the victim's family. Without reasonable time frames between conviction and execution, the justice system, the memory of the victim, and the victim's family are all gravely insulted. Maybe there's more to it than that, or maybe I'm just too simple, or maybe that's basically correct. In any case there's plenty of cowardice and moral turpitude to go around for everyone involved in delaying and stopping long overdue executions.




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I could be convinced to return to hanging. Quick, sure, and when done right, pretty close to pain free. And it has the feel of state justice.


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Originally posted by jhe888:...Or the guillotine, which is even more surely quick and painless.


So they say. Somehow I hae me doots, having cut myself on numerous occasions, an occasion accompanied by a certain degree of pain. Nothing as serious as decapitation, which, I would opine, hurts quite a lot, if only briefly.
 
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Do normal people like to watch?
The (a?) last public hanging.

Kentucky 1936.




And as far as the evil drug companies' preventing other methods, in recent times many executions have been delayed because drug companies refused to sell the drugs necessary.


I bet that no ice-cream stand has ever had a better day than that. If I'd been the hangee, I'd have asked for one as a last meal.
 
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The Eighth Amendment only prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. It doesn't say executions must be totally painless. That lets out things like the brazen bull, breaking wheel, impalement, eaten alive by animals, etc., but not hanging. That was extremely common back then, not unusual or excessively cruel (provided it breaks the neck instantly, not slowly strangling), and for a century and a half after that. George Washington had men hanged.
 
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Do normal people like to watch?
The (a?) last public hanging.

Kentucky 1936.



The 1936 equivalent of a million views of a TikTok video of torturing cats.
 
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