The absolute worst car I ever owned was a Cadillac. Can't afford this new one so I would never get buyers remorse.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Some of their concepts have been excellent designs, of course never making it to production..

But that's just it with most American manufacturers today. They might be able to sling together a neat design for an auto show, but when it comes time to mass produce it, the entire process completely falls apart. It was announced last week The little Ford Maverick truck I thought had some real potential will undergo a recall of some 100k units to have the airbags replaced. Cars have become too complex for manufacturers to be able to successfully produce them anymore.

$300k? That could buy some good hookers and blow.

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Originally posted by XinTX:
$300k? That could buy some good hookers and blow.

That's a dealer add-on to be discussed along with the extended warranty and Scotchguard.

Where's the Diamond in the Back?

Neil Diamond? How about just his record and guitar collection?

What do you get when you cross a CTX with a Citroën? Don't know, but now it takes longer than four hours to change the headlight bulb.

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Originally posted by HRK:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Broad brush comment....anyone willing to shell out $300k for a GM build product is in serious need of psychiatric counseling. Aztec anyone???

True, although at one time many many moons ago, Cadillac was the epitome of custom luxury, anyone that was anyone bought a Cadillac, truly the standard of the world. then we decided that Foreign vehicles were the status symbol,

There was a time when we had a V16 Cadillac , a Duesenberg, Auburn, Marmon, great depression hit that market.

Would be nice to see some of that return to the USA...

Funny you should say that. When I bought a BMW my parents didn't have much to say about it. Now I have a Cadillac and my parents constantly comment and want me to drive. They're in thier 80s, I figure it's a generational thing.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Broad brush comment....anyone willing to shell out $300k for a GM build product is in serious need of psychiatric counseling. Aztec anyone???

Re the Aztec reference:
I have know lots of Aztec owners, including my sister and my daughter, and everyone of them loved the vehicles. Most of them drove them for years, mostly trouble free!
Only complaint was the "looks" early in ownership then pure satisfaction in short order.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Aztec

Aztec

It looks like a stretched out Aztec. Yuck.

Modern ‘49 Mercury vibe.

The rear of the car has a resemblance to the Porsche 928.


Random image from internet.

Mayor Pete would say it’s a way to avoid high gas prices, IMBECILES!!

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Originally posted by dan03833:

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Originally posted by HRK:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Broad brush comment....anyone willing to shell out $300k for a GM build product is in serious need of psychiatric counseling. Aztec anyone???

True, although at one time many many moons ago, Cadillac was the epitome of custom luxury, anyone that was anyone bought a Cadillac, truly the standard of the world. then we decided that Foreign vehicles were the status symbol,

There was a time when we had a V16 Cadillac , a Duesenberg, Auburn, Marmon, great depression hit that market.

Would be nice to see some of that return to the USA...

Funny you should say that. When I bought a BMW my parents didn't have much to say about it. Now I have a Cadillac and my parents constantly comment and want me to drive. They're in thier 80s, I figure it's a generational thing.

Interesting enough Mecum Monterey is on TV today and there are several Cadillac 16's selling, as well as a collection of 4 Marmons, out of a total 5 known to exist....

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Originally posted by HRK:
Interesting enough Mecum Monterey is on TV today and there are several Cadillac 16's selling, as well as a collection of 4 Marmons, out of a total 5 known to exist....

And if they're what I think they are, they're selling prices will be in the seven figures range...each. Automotive art and history is sought after and collectible (i.e. special). This electric nothing from GM is just that...nothing but a hunk of metal and plastic that is completely forgetable.

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Originally posted by gjgalligan:
Re the Aztec reference:
I have know lots of Aztec owners, including my sister and my daughter, and everyone of them loved the vehicles. Most of them drove them for years, mostly trouble free!
Only complaint was the "looks" early in ownership then pure satisfaction in short order.

I know a few Aztec owners that got in at the beginning and reliability was a joke. One friend memorized the Lemon Law and as soon as his car broke for the third time for the same thing, he was lawyering up against the dealer, but it was always another problem.

The later ones were fine, and like you said, my Aunt loved hers.

Still not sure how GM is going to justify Rolls-Royce money for something they build. Even Mercedes had problems convincing people to buy a Maybach instead of a Rolls or a Bentley.

IMO anyone who pays 300K for a car that will be parked in a Dead Battery Field somewhere in 10 years is a MORON.

Well the next 18 months of production is sold out..

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$300,000 Cadillac Celestiq Already Sold Out For The Next 18 Months
DEC. 15, 2022 10:41 AM ET
BY JARRYD NEVES
LUXURY
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Chief engineer Tony Roma remarked that it's a "fantastic problem to have."

Cadillac's incredible Celestiq range-topper is already sold out for the next 18 months, according to GM executives.

In an interview with Autoline Network, Cadillac chief engineer Tony Roma said, "we already have quite a few hand raisers. Many, many more than we're going to be able to build in the first year or 18 months. We're going through the process of who is the right person to have it and who is the right person for the brand," he explained.

"It's a fantastic problem to have that we've [garnered] so much interest."

Cadillac has made some good looking rides over the years.

This ain't one of them.

In my opinion the XLR was the last cool Cadillac made.

300k per- I wonder how fast we can all save the environment with those… oh, right. Sounds like a different variation of “ok for me but not for thee”.

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Originally posted by gjgalligan:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Broad brush comment....anyone willing to shell out $300k for a GM build product is in serious need of psychiatric counseling. Aztec anyone???

Re the Aztec reference:
I have know lots of Aztec owners, including my sister and my daughter, and everyone of them loved the vehicles. Most of them drove them for years, mostly trouble free!
Only complaint was the "looks" early in ownership then pure satisfaction in short order.

And just about every piece of glass being >$1k
According to my college roommate who worked for a local glass company for a while & had one come in with every piece of glass broken by a jilted partner.