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I replace plastic fridge lines for customers way to often. Especially when on municipal systems that have chlorine in them. I always use copper!


What fittings do I need for either Cu or plastic?


Take the compression ring with you to Lowe’s, try the plastic stuff and see if it fits...if so, you got the right size. I would never try and guesstimate it...some companies measure the OD(outer diameter) some use the ID (inner diameter) of the tubing. Having the nut and ferrul with you will take the guessing out of it.



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Get a 5' or 10' long stainless braided hose at lowe's (in the same section) that had the correct fitting size to screw on your existing copper line or fitting and the refrigerator. This will allow you to pull the fridge in and out easily AND do away with the rattling AND does away with the copper line getting crimped and restricting flow. Stay away from the plastic tubing.

If sticking to Copper if it's a much longer run, i'd use a bronze compression fitting on one side and a female on the other size , a compression to compression is the same also a lot of times if a female is on the refrigerator side. Also, if you insist on running copper, get a 2' piece of plastic tubing that the copper will fit inside (that will slide over the copper). slide it down the copper and bend the copper where you need to make corners inside of the plastic tubing and the copper won't crimp/restrict itself or break, then slide the plastic tubing off of the other end. I'd still think about the braided line from the back wall of the refrigerator to the copper (5') to allow pulling the fridge in and out.

Like this, just verify you have the correct threads on each end: 5'
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTM...er-Connector/3190917

10'
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTM...er-Connector/3196993
 
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Skins, Lowes and Home Depot have pre-made lines for the Ice Maker. https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTM...er-Connector/3196993 is one example.



I would go with one of these over plastic tubing or copper. They're much heavier duty like a sink or commode supply line. Plastic tubing with that compression fitting in the OP will have a higher failure rate. If you push the reefer back against the wall carelessly with copper tubing it can crimp closed or break entirely.


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Get a 5' or 10' long stainless braided hose at lowe's (in the same section) that had the correct fitting size to screw on your existing copper line or fitting and the refrigerator. This will allow you to pull the fridge in and out easily AND do away with the rattling AND does away with the copper line getting crimped and restricting flow. Stay away from the plastic tubing.

If sticking to Copper if it's a much longer run, i'd use a bronze compression fitting on one side and a female on the other size , a compression to compression is the same also a lot of times if a female is on the refrigerator side. Also, if you insist on running copper, get a 2' piece of plastic tubing that the copper will fit inside (that will slide over the copper). slide it down the copper and bend the copper where you need to make corners inside of the plastic tubing and the copper won't crimp/restrict itself or break, then slide the plastic tubing off of the other end. I'd still think about the braided line from the back wall of the refrigerator to the copper (5') to allow pulling the fridge in and out.

Like this, just verify you have the correct threads on each end: 5'
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTM...er-Connector/3190917

10'
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTM...er-Connector/3196993


Went to HD they had 12' premade line. Stainless braid over PEX inner tubing had female ends on both ends. Verified it threaded on to very similar GE fridge. The length was way too long. $16 vs $4.50 for three compression fittings (no single packs).

Is this the best way to go?



No clue why pic is B&W, weird.



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Yeah, that's what I'd use. Easy peasy.
 
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Yeah, that's what I'd use. Easy peasy.


This is still a plastic line though, just with a fancy outer jacket.



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For the seeds, I'd suggest a heat mat under the trays - you'll get much better germination.

I think that's 1/4 compression to 1/4MPT, but let a plumber chime in.
. Definitely a heat map for germination, they also work well for raising bread dough.
 
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This is still a plastic line though, just with a fancy outer jacket.


DING DING DING DING!

The PEX line is much cheaper and does the same thing...braided stainless steel is for show...and if the inner tubing cracks the braid won’t keep the water in.



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1/4" nuts and ferrules


So if I just but the nut and ferrule (things i have in my hand in first picture?) I can just thread that directly on to fridge male connection?


Only for copper.

Plastic requires a brass insert and plastic ferrule.




 
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1/4" nuts and ferrules


So if I just but the nut and ferrule (things i have in my hand in first picture?) I can just thread that directly on to fridge male connection?


Only for copper.

Plastic requires a brass insert and plastic ferrule.


This is why I was asking what's best, Cu or plastic. It'd be much cheaper to use the Cu and return the SS braded plastic thing I got. From responses this far. Plastic wins for noise. Cu won't crack, but could get pinched vs plastic can leak.

Honestly I don't clean under my fridge a bunch, maybe every two years, if I do it's only to vacuum cat hair from the fridge, not to clean the floor under it.



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This is still a plastic line though, just with a fancy outer jacket.


DING DING DING DING!

The PEX line is much cheaper and does the same thing...braided stainless steel is for show...and if the inner tubing cracks the braid won’t keep the water in.


Agree, but having had my lovely bride pull the fridge out for cleaning, then push it over a plastic line and walk away I’ve found the braid protects it a little more.




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This is why I was asking what's best, Cu or plastic. It'd be much cheaper to use the Cu and return the SS braded plastic thing I got. From responses this far. Plastic wins for noise. Cu won't crack, but could get pinched vs plastic can leak.

Honestly I don't clean under my fridge a bunch, maybe every two years, if I do it's only to vacuum cat hair from the fridge, not to clean the floor under it.


I personally like and use plastic.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Wa...CEAQYESABEgIUrvD_BwE




 
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For the fridge, just go to Lowe’s and use the opaque tubing on the roll, cut about ten feet or so, that you can pull out the fridge and sweep w/o having to worry about pulling the hose loose.


If you have ever seen the damage a broken poly line makes, you would never, ever use it.


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This is why I was asking what's best, Cu or plastic. It'd be much cheaper to use the Cu and return the SS braded plastic thing I got. From responses this far. Plastic wins for noise. Cu won't crack, but could get pinched vs plastic can leak.

Honestly I don't clean under my fridge a bunch, maybe every two years, if I do it's only to vacuum cat hair from the fridge, not to clean the floor under it.


I personally like and use plastic.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Wa...CEAQYESABEgIUrvD_BwE


Would you have any reservations with using the product I pictured earlier in posts?



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To answer the OP question, whenever possible, I use a Fluidmaster No Burst connector. That is the braided stainless steel exterior/rubber core style line. With the wall box connector you posted a picture of, that is the only way to go. Copper is good but it is often noisy with the snap acting inlet valves on icemakers and many local codes require a hammer arresting device which the No Burst style connector usually will satisfy.

At the very least, use genuine John Guest poly tubing which is far more resistant than the white poly tubing to breakdown from compressor heat at the connection to the refrigerator.


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Would you have any reservations with using the product I pictured earlier in posts?


No
I just like plastic. Light weight, flexible, easier to work with, smaller, less leaks, etc.




 
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This is why I was asking what's best, Cu or plastic. It'd be much cheaper to use the Cu and return the SS braded plastic thing I got. From responses this far. Plastic wins for noise. Cu won't crack, but could get pinched vs plastic can leak.

Honestly I don't clean under my fridge a bunch, maybe every two years, if I do it's only to vacuum cat hair from the fridge, not to clean the floor under it.


I personally like and use plastic.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Wa...CEAQYESABEgIUrvD_BwE


Would you have any reservations with using the product I pictured earlier in posts?


I too prefer the Fluidmaster type with the rubber hose inside. However the line you showed in the picture is PEX and not Polythylene (clear tubing) and the pex is thicker and much stronger than the Polythylene and the S/S sheath helps protect it from bending too far (and cracking) and etc. and I wouldn't be afraid to use it. They plumb entire houses out of PEX, I wouldn't want it in my walls, but wouldn't be afraid to use what you have.
 
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I started my tomatoes 2 1/2 weeks ago as I have some good south facing windows. I put them outside during the day if it's 45 or higher. They are doing well and have 4 leaves right now. Peas are in the ground and about 5" tall. Onions and carrots are in the ground(seeds) but nothing yet. I've always had a love-hate relationship with them.




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Plumbers and farmers, two questions.

An interesting connection between the two trades, other than a farmer has to know how to do his own plumbing ...

I wanted a new set of Red Wing boots for rough-duty plumbing work, model 953. Redfern, the Redwing store manager in Newark Delaware, told me he keeps that model in stock and farmers were the only ones who bought it. In 1990, after a piece of snapped 6" spun iron pipe whacked my ankle, I went into that 8" Red Wing model and never left it.

 
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Plastic for the ice maker if you are running it after a reverse osmosis water filtration system.
 
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