Trouble is, regardless of lack of knowledge, skill or suitability for a political “ leadership” position, if anointed by the Democratic Party for president or VP, left followers will mindlessly fall in place and support her anyway.

The left has supporters so brainwashed !

I am sure if this comes to pass ( and I would be good money it does) they will play the “ humble beginnings “ “woman of color” cards to further bolster support. The old ploy of all women should support her, and if you don’t you are a traitor to your gender ( even if the left can’t define that) or all Latina must provide unwavering support to “ one of their own”

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The old ploy of all women should support her, and if you don’t you are a traitor to your gender ( even if the left can’t define that) or all Latina must provide unwavering support to “ one of their own”

That is a shockingly effective tactic. I've seen otherwise high IQ people say they support a candidate even though they disagree with their political positions simply because they are "one of their own", which isn't white male heterosexual. That's in addition to all of the mindless parroting of DEI pablum about diversity being superior just by definition.

My judgement of human intelligence is growing ever more negative.

“Humble beginnings?” Sandy Cortez?

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Originally posted by captain127:
Trouble is, regardless of lack of knowledge, skill or suitability for a political “ leadership” position, if anointed by the Democratic Party for president or VP, left followers will mindlessly fall in place and support her anyway.

That was obvious the last time, but I’m not sure it would be “trouble” for her to get enough support to be nominated. There is a tendency to forget that many people make voting choices based on who they believe is least bad, and in fact I suspect that’s more common than not. Many members here evidently believe that President Trump can do no wrong, but that’s hardly true of everyone. DJT turned out much better than I expected, but we should remember how he was described in the title of a thread that was opened on 30 June 2015.

Another bit of history: Alexander Kerensky was the president of the short-lived Russian Republic after the fall of the Tsar. Sometime after Kerensky was deposed by the 1917 Russian revolution, he observed, “Without Rasputin, there could have been no Lenin.” I.e., Rasputin’s horrible influence over the Tsar’s family, especially his wife, led to so much discontent with the royal institution that it became possible for Lenin and the Bolsheviks (Communists) to come to power, and despite how unpopular they were with many people. I.e., regardless of how bad the Bolsheviks might have been perceived to be, a system that allowed someone like Rasputin to have so much influence over the government was worse.

I remembered that quotation after the 2016 election, and during a discussion with a leftist friend I said, “Without [Hillary] Clinton, there would have been no Trump.” I believed then that if the Democrats had nominated someone less unsuited for the presidency that he/she would have won—and I believe it today. As a much earlier example, I also believe it helped Nixon’s reelection in 1972 when the Democrats nominated George McGovern. I recall a photograph in a humor magazine of Nixon and members of his staff and cabinet who were laughing uproariously with the (yes, fake) caption, “They nominated who‽”

I know many people who were not very happy about the idea of a second Trump term, but were appalled by the Harris nomination. I strongly doubt that AOC will be the nominee in 2024, but if she were, it would only make a GOP victory more likely.

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Everything I’ve seen projects Cortez as well behind both heels-up-Harris and Newsom. None of the three are electable without cheating, which we have almost 3 full years to put measures in place that will catch the vermin if they try again.

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Everything I’ve seen projects Cortez as well behind both heels-up-Harris and Newsom. None of the three are electable without cheating, which we have almost 3 full years to put measures in place that will catch the vermin if they try again.

With all the cheating, lying and stealing, I’m not so positive. I believe in my heart that we will prevail but it won’t be a cakewalk.
Judges will bend over backwards to stifle rightfully brought lawsuits saying, “You don’t have standing.”
The Supremes sure as hell aren’t any help. We need to get REAL election reform in place sooner rather than later.
That will depend on the spineless republicunts in congress and we’ve all seen how effective they are.

The only way Americans can save their elections is to come out in NUMBERS! HUGE NUMBERS!
We outnumber the dolts and can help drive the idiots back to the sewers where they belong.

ouch

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/2024507915030159435

The ouchiest...

https://x.com/JasonJournoDC/st.../2024640234571407471

"She knows NOTHING. NOTHING. She doesn't know ANYTHING. She was a barista that was kind of cute and glib — and she got elected in a surprise win where nobody really took her seriously."

"And then she went into the Latina DEI and 'The Squad' — and she never did any homework."

"She didn't know anything about Taiwan ... she thought she was going to have a presence — and it kind of boomeranged."

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"She knows NOTHING. NOTHING.

"All she wants is Wingstop
She worked ten hours. Ten hours!
All she wants is Wingstop. Wingstop!
Freakin drive... Freakin drive!
She's freakin starving MAGA!
What did you eat today?
She ate nothing. Nothing... Nothing!
Ten hours down, feeling drained and low. Low!
All she wants is Wingstop!"

Right next to Uranus