I think it might have been a risky shoot, especially in an urban (blue) area.
I wouldn't have blamed him if the guy had continued towards him and where I live probably OK.
If you were looking for a textbook version, pepper spray and shouting "leave now, you're trespassing" would have helped too.
The result is what counted and it worked out fine.

I'm pretty sure I would have done exactly what the guy in the video did... display my firearm and demand the miscreant leave. I didn't see any action that warranted shooting, though it got close one time when the miscreant started walking towards the homeowner!

About 2 years or so ago I had two guys in a pickup truck pull into my driveway and started pulling measurements to install gutters. I told them we hadn't ordered any gutters and that they should leave. They insisted they had the right address and continued doing measurements... until I unholstered my firearm and let them see it. They packed up and left the property very quickly! Simply showing your firearm is normally enough to get all but the most serious offenders to cooperate... at least in my opinion.

Stupid question here. The video appears to have no time gaps. To my eye he walked into the garage but when the homeowner came out he was walking down the walkway to the door. Which also seems odd because the owner came out one way and the door “seemed” to be on the opposite side.

Is there video missing? How did he get out of the garage? Or am I being dumb? Could be either. lol

Guessing it's a car port, guy clearly entered it with intent to do something nefarious, once he's in that car port it's no different than being in your living room especially with your wife right there. Now once he came out the move toward the homeowner looked like he was trying to walk on that sidewalk to leave, but you better damn well be ready, people can close distances pretty damn quick.

Whats that thing, the 21 foot rule about a knife and a gun....

He did well to diffuse the situation without taking it to the full extreme.

Had something similar happen one night taking the dog out at 2am into the front yard, a guy walked out from between the houses, no shirt, no shoes, jeans only, not from the area. The dog helped and this was just after the Treyvon Martin situation.

Result was similar, I told him to get out and how to get out walking, he didn't approach me and I just said for him to move on, called the cops, never heard if they got him or not...

Car port. Yup, that could be the answer. My brain was stuck on garage.

No way I would have shot that guy. Yet. If he had continued that slow walk towards me would have been when the tough call happened.

I think front door, single car garage, carport, side yard. Woman pulled into carport, creep walks into carport, gun guy walks out front door, creep comes around side yard.

Not being in the situation directly I can say the guy's chances of leaving in a body bag rather than under his own power are much greater for the former. You follow my wife in the car into our garage or carport? You aren't there to ask directions and at that point I don't much care what possible reason you could have to be in pursuit of my wife on my property. I hope the guy or the wife had already called 911.

Other things to be considered are that's the guy you see. Are there others you don't? An accomplice could have come up behind the homeowner and killed or disabled him. These types usually are not alone. Nope I want to see that guy leaving the property faster than a jack rabbit when I make my appearance especially if I'm brandishing a gun. His casual I do this every day attitude would make me think something more is afoot.

he did it right

He showed good restraint. I would have had the gun at low ready, and it sure as hell would have come up when he veered towards me. Another second or two of that and I may have fired.

They guy did not seem to be concerned with being shot. If he was armed, the homeowner likely would have lost this encounter. Glad it turned out the way it did

It appears that the husband handled the situation well and made a good decision to not shot the scumbag when took those two slight steps towards the husband (and not angle away from him).

If it had been me in that situation, I would like to think that I would have the wherewithal to use the parked car in the driveway as cover while communicating with the scumbag.

If he approached the vehicle (and me) instead of leaving as instructed, then that may lead to an entirely different outcome.

Another instance where a shooting would be valid, approaching a car with a Machete, think I'd have told my wife to run his big ass over and park the Buick on top of him before he got to the car...

https://x.com/bluelivesmtr/status/2038617248529584479

I think that in situations like these, it is good to have a dog with you. At least 80 pounds of teeth, muscles and fur. Unless it's a Malinois; they punch above their weight.

Gun and dog are a winning combination.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Another instance where a shooting would be valid, approaching a car with a Machete, think I'd have told my wife to run his big ass over and park the Buick on top of him before he got to the car...

To add context, I've lived all over North America, and I've never seen a state/province take school zones speed limits as seriously as Texas. Speed limits are merely a suggestion most of the time in Texas, but they are a hard limit in school zones. I didn't grow up here so I was surprised to be pulled over for doing 29 in a 25 mph school zone.

In other words, the machete wielder is an absolute oblivious moron if he was "thinking" it isn't normal to slow down for school zones.

At least the machete wielder has good taste in shirts as I have the same Astros fishing shirt.

At the 49 second mark, he appears to draw and it sounds like he chambers a round. It also looks like the trespasser hits the 20 foot zone at that moment.
When the trespasser advances after that(which was a aggressive move to me, he could have cut across the lawn to leave), the homeowner steps back and toward his house, giving the trespasser even more leeway to leave. The trespasser would have to turn to his right to close on the homeowner at this point, then shooting him would be the correct call in my mind.

Since it is all on camera, this should all be in the homeowner's favor if I am a juror, even a skeptical one.

It looks like this guy did everything right. From a layman's point of view, it looks textbook.

EDIT: It is interesting that the homeowner came from around the side of the house, not out the front door. Did he go out his back door and come around like that to be able to scope out what was going on? Coming out the front door, or garage/carport door, would have been obvious and, if the trespasser had an accomplice waiting at the side of the garage, the homeowner had the element of surprise on his side, rather than the other way around.

This guy seems extremely savvy. And he has given me something to thing about.


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Machete man, bringing a knife to a gunfight.

In Texas of all places.

Moron.

Try this one on for size. It might be staged, or it may be that this melon farmer is batshit.

https://x.com/Type07Safety/status/2042564132189143446

Arkansas says if a crazed squirrel is exhibiting these behaviors, and likely to be able to make entry, I am within my right to use deadly force to protect immediate threat to myself and my property.

I would "call the Man" and wait, but you can better believe Mr. Dot 308 would be able to get him before he crossed the threshold, should the door breach.

We'll just have to call him "Stew".

Senior Citizen has some privilege.


But I am 2 miles from the Cop Shop, and would give them a chance to deal with him if they got there before.

Those tactical flipflops ain't giving him enough traction for a proper door breach. He would have better luck holding up a boombox and blast Peter Gabriel.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Try this one on for size. It might be staged, or it may be that this melon farmer is batshit.

https://x.com/Type07Safety/status/2042564132189143446

Well, the video is out of his arrest, looks like the homeowner kept him engaged while the police showed up and took his loony butt to jail.

https://x.com/ClownWorld/status/2042744078744588779



Apparently the video at the link is an internal camera and you'll see the guy gets into the house, possibly the wife was home at the time, the homeowner gets home, and that black service truck is his you see in the arrest video, comes inside with a shovel and confronts the man. You see him at 1:54 approx, and then it's all sound nobody on camera until after 4 min when you see law enforcement in the house.

There is a lot of discussion in the below thread about the guy possibly being ex military and having some kind of psychotic episode as he seemed to calm down when the HO asked him that question and started using sir. There is also commentary that the wife was at home hiding at the time, that had been in Texas that guy would have been swiss cheese...


https://www.reddit.com/r/Cr1Ti...content=share_button